ziggy wrote:It's difficult for many people to understand what it takes to build such a complex PU. There's not only the engine (ICE) part, but there are also electric components and power electronics (nobody is talking about these here) which are as complex as the ICE. Then you have to get them all to play together like an orchestra. As an example, we all know, an orchestra has to practice again and again and again for hours on the same rehearsal, till it is is completely in-sync with itself.
Then there are some clever inovations. We are talking about state of the art technology. Aerospace level. These parts need to be developed and tested and there are no shortcuts. No references, no books where you could read about it. You can't just buy them from a supllier, so you are on your own. As per Murphys law, anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. And it has to go wrong, so you can understand the problem and solve it once for all.
When you got all bits and bolts together, a working PU, it has to work with the chassis, and we are at the orchestra again...
Is mercedes then more competent than honda? Impossible to say, but they started way earlier than honda. Flavio Briatore said they started in 2007, some other reports say 2010. I can clearly remember driver comments about very hot air, when driving behind the mercedes in 2011/2012, so they allready tested 2014 cooling configurations, they knew the cooling requirements back then. That means The Ice was allready running at least in 2011!
Long story short, I'm 100% sure Honda will get there, the question is only when. My gut feeling says Spain or Monaco...
You underestimate what people here know about the complexity of these engines. A very condescending post.