David Tryhard

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David Tryhard

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Has anybody else noticed that David Coulthard has, as the season's went on, become increasingly desperate? I mean in his seek for a new team.
It started in the beginning of the season, and it just seems to escalate as the season goes on and nobody still seems to be interested in him.
It's so obvious it makes me laugh!

In a recent interview he said that Kimi is propably the best driver around at the moment. True. Then he went on to say that despite that, he has been better than kimi this season many times! :shock: What? When? I'm sorry, i must have missed that, all I have seen is him making about 3-6 tenths of a second slower laps in quali and kimi driving faster than him in the races, even overtaking him TWICE in the US GP.

So he claimed he's going to crush Kimi's self confidence by beating him in all the last 8 races of the season!?! Right. He was one second slower in the Silverstone qualifying. Not a good start for his Kimi beating campaign? :lol:

Then he's trying to convince team bosses that he is very much in demand.
He says he has "personally visited three teams" on the grounds of next years team choice. He probably went on a tour in their factory with some F1 fans. :lol:
He wants to show them "what he is like these days" instead of what he was like when they last knew him. I think this means williams. He has probably just walked in their office without an appointment and wanted to see Frank Williams. After three hours of sitting in the waiting room some middle level manager has agreed to see him. David has given a speech of what a terrific team player he is these days, and the guy has said "that's fantastic" and then hurried off to a meeting. :lol:

It must be hard falling from a top team position, which you have managed to keep only because your team doesn't like change, to having to settle a contract with some lesser team that can't manage to get decent drivers even with money.

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I hear you bernad, i hear you.

David Retard has been a waste of space. It would have to be the most annoying and frustrating aspect of mclaret. They must have been pissed when they resigned, resigned and resigned him.

Pulling jew won montoya over has been a masterful stroke and the silver sparrows may become a force again and should take the title in 05.

This clown appointed himself the barricello of mclaret. What makes him think he has any hope of out driving kimi raping-men when he couldnt out do mika. I'm sure retard has been dropping the soap in the shower and kick it all the way to ron dennarse's place. I can't find any other reason for ron retaining him.

He'll be racing in his wheelchair next year.....seeya retard.

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I think the two most unnecessary drivers in the series are Ralf and David. The other one of them just got signed by toyota with big bucks... congratulations, toyota! It seems you still don't know what your'e doing.
i'll make here a list of the five best and the five worst drivers(in my opinion):
Best:

Kimi
Montoya
Webber
... there are only three really talented drivers worth mentioning.

Worst:

Ralf
Coulthard
Klien
Bruni
Da Matta

The first two are mediocrelly fast, but they are unreliable, think too much of their driving talents and get paid way too much.
Th rest are just really slow and untalented.

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:shock: you left out shumacher :shock:

dont u rate him ?

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schumacher isnt in their class anymore, has finished his masters, presented his thesis and is now providing tuition on how to win championships in F1 for the rest..... being able to race wheel to wheel is enough to win races but not championships...

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I really think DC will end up with Jaguar next year.

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hmmm I'd like to defend David here, I think he has done a good job with the MP4-19, and I am under the impression he is indeed the better driver with that car.

However now with the MP4-19B I must also admit he is clearly a little bit slower. It really looks like David is a very good driver when he is in a rather bad car, he seems to be able to get the most out of it, while Kimi is simply faster in a competitive car, probably because he can motivate himself better then.

About his quest for a new drive, well I hope he gets one though, he's a really nice guy, always friendly and doing the best he can.

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hmmm I'd like to defend David here, I think he has done a good job with the MP4-19, and I am under the impression he is indeed the better driver with that car.
Yeah, right. Just as bar is really fighting for podium finishes. You just stare at the statistics; David has more points this season, ergo he is the better driver.
But looking at the situation as a whole, you would see kimi has suffered technical failures in nearly every race, while David has been able to finish those races (in his usual 7th position). But before Kimi's car has given up under him, he has been driving well better than David in the race. David fights for positions 5-9, regardless of the car, and that is a fact. Give him a ferrari and he still finds himself in the middlefield, never in the spotlights. He is slower than kimi, something like 3 tenths of a second per lap in qualifying, another fact.
If i owned a team, i would not take Coulthard into my team unless i absolutely had to. He isn't slow as such, he just doesn't have what it takes. He will always be driving in the backround.
And in France when he got the chance to start from position 3, what does he do? He fails the start. He ends up being caught by Kimi who started after a driving mistake from position 9, and i think he even overtook David, but then got some trouble with electronics and had to make an extra stop.
So the claim that David has in any way been better than Kimi in the mp4-19 is just ridicilous, and it sounds like somebody has been awash by David's job-hunting propaganda.

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you sure about that?....cos kimi has outqualified DC even in the 19. speed wise david dosen't seem to be able to find an answer against Kimi..and i think its more of Kimi has the abbility to get te best out of any car..he did so with the MP4-17D last year and the again with the MP4-19. and now that he has a competetive car(the 19B)..he can get even more out of it in comparison to david. I think david can preserve a car better. thats how he got the points in the arly part of the season, by preserving an ailing car, wheres Kimi still lacks experience in that sense and tend to drive in the more all out fashion..but i think Kimi is definetly gonna get better cos he is still got lots more years in front of him and to be at this level this young...you just wonder if ppl will even rmbr Schumi when Kimi is at his prime..david on the other hand is pressed against the wall when you lok at his age and teh way he is driving and all those "this is gonna be my year" talk..its just odd how he has not been preforming to well over the years...i have to agree he is in the same league as Ralf...they will pop up here and there, no doubt being good drivers...but i doubt they got wat it takes to run the whole nine yards...the championship
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it would seem that david agrees with us according to the F1 news sites where he was disappointed with his speed against kimi in silverstone..
i think DC could still be useful to a team such as Jaguar or Toyota because while he hasnt the blinding speed of kimi or the ultra consistency of schu, he is technically adept and can help in developing a car... was an excellent number 2 to mika when Mclaren were dominating in 98 and 99...

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With regards to out and out pace Kimi has the upper hand on David. But as a race driver David experience really helps. His experience of diving F1 cars has seen him finish more races than Kimi and race better (Not nessecarally faster) in the MP4-19. However with the 19B Kimi has a great car again and is able to apply his superior speed again.

DC isnt the best, but he is one of the most experienced racers on the grid. He has 23 GP wins (Or somewhere in that region I must check that sometime) and formed one of the longest ever driver pairing (DC & Hakkinen at Mclaren). No team as good as Mclaren would keep a driver that long unless they where worth it. DC is obviously worth it. But now Kimi and Montoya has come along DC is no longer as good an option for Mclaren. Thats not to say he is no-longer any good. True is isnt as good as he once was but he's still fast and makes very few mistakes. And to top it off he is a genuine nice person (Sometimes too nice for his own good unfortunately)
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DC seems to have shot his foot again...spining twice, not getting proper setup and 11th place in the practice
in comparisions to raikkonen's second and raikkonen's 0.044 secs of schu's pace...i feel it rather odd that dc is prefroming at this level..it really doesn't seem to be him as he was maybe 4 years back...he never struggled this bad last time...now he is.
" If you want to win, get a Finn" - Hakkinen

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His years in F1 are over, it's all downhill from here for him. He just gets slower and slower every year. He had his shot when Mclaren was in top fit along with him a couple years back but he failed grasp his chance and now it's gone.

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yeah tis very unusual for DC to spin twice in a session....cant remember the last time that would have happened.... maybe setup but sounds more like overdriving trying to keep up with kimi hey........

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You're seriously underestimating DC's worth. Sure, I agree he is not up there with Kimi, Michael et al, but remember, after Michael, he is the next most experienced racer out there (more wins than anyone else on the grid other than Michael). Not as fast as some, but a cany racer, with years of experience, and depth of technical knowledge. All the teams would be falling all over him for a test role. If I were a team owner, he would be my first chioce for the (ok, I'm giving a little away here) second driver role.

Remember, there is more to F1 than being fast. DC is the consumate professional, always has words for the media, sponsors, etc. The young guys can learn a lot from him.