2017 Sauber F1 Team - Ferrari

[daniellammers]

Honda will sort their PU, but Sauber will still be chugging around at the back. They don't have the resources.

Maybe an injection from Honda?

They used to have some pretty innovative engineers. Those get plucked fairly quick. It seems like TR is what Sauber used to be.

I mean financial wise

[adrianjordan]

Honda will sort their PU, but Sauber will still be chugging around at the back. They don't have the resources.

Maybe an injection from Honda?

With McLaren being the parent works team and Sauber the junior team? Similar to Red Bull and Toro Rosso?

[daniellammers]

Honda will sort their PU, but Sauber will still be chugging around at the back. They don't have the resources.

Maybe an injection from Honda?

With McLaren being the parent works team and Sauber the junior team? Similar to Red Bull and Toro Rosso?

Or make Honda from Sauber, but would McLaren allow?

[Manjhi]

With McLaren being the parent works team and Sauber the junior team? Similar to Red Bull and Toro Rosso?

The moment a mid-field team signs any contract, which has some relevance with top team, people start speculations about the mid-field team acting as junior team or sister team.

It's ridiculous to even think like that when the owners are completely different, Torro Rosso & Red Bull are owned by RB group hence TR acts as sister team.

But Sauber is an independent team and they'll carry different operations then Mclaren.

As a Sauber fan its already difficult for us to digest Honda deal, and it shows that both this entities are in deep sh!t. I am only praying for revival of this team bcoz its hard to see no sponsors on the sidepods for a team which is celebrating its 25th year in F1.

[marmer]

I don't see why they are so poor compared to other teams, been in f1 for ages had buckets of cash when bmw was around had all the computers and wind tunnels they needed had decent drivers at times and pay drivers brining plenty in. Far more sponsorship money coming in than manor and very nearly got beat by them last year this year are dead last on pure pace after deciding to use an old engine which is most likely stil better than honda. A team like sauber should be up with Williams and force India as a top independent team not being last and worse than red bulls youth side and McLaren Honda's clown car

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[Vasconia]

As a Sauber fan its already difficult for us to digest Honda deal, and it shows that both this entities are in deep sh!t. I am only praying for revival of this team bcoz its hard to see no sponsors on the sidepods for a team which is celebrating its 25th year in F1.

This agreement comes in times of need for both parts. Honda needs another team to make a boost in their process of developñment. On the other hand, Sauber needs a cheap and updated PU.

I think (and hope) that this will work decently in 2018 which should benefit Sauber.

[etusch]

Sauber has a very good windtunnel and they show affect of this at spain I think but also they show at monaco that they have very bad mechanical grip. With a bit support they can be in mid group easily.

[marvin78]

Kaltenborn is no at Saubers any more. German online portals push this story through the day

http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/news ... 62104.html

[Singabule]

Just WOW, so sauber operation will be taken over by Honda? Or longbow is against her? Such a pity since development as sauber is accelerated right now

[Big Mangalhit]

So my theory that Monica had signed with Honda while still having a contract with Ferrari is probably wrong. (joke)

[enry86]

Just WOW, so sauber operation will be taken over by Honda? Or longbow is against her? Such a pity since development as sauber is accelerated right now

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... ith-sauber

Autosport reports that the main reason may be some disagreement between Longbow and her about drivers management, Longbow wanted the team to favour Ericsson.
Anyway let's see what happens, an Honda takeover could be interesting

[Singabule]

Yes, hope for fully fledged honda works!

[Santozini]

Yes, hope for fully fledged honda works!

That would be interesting!

[marmer]

Just WOW, so sauber operation will be taken over by Honda? Or longbow is against her? Such a pity since development as sauber is accelerated right now

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... ith-sauber

Autosport reports that the main reason may be some disagreement between Longbow and her about drivers management, Longbow wanted the team to favour Ericsson.
Anyway let's see what happens, an Honda takeover could be interesting

hmm Ericsson over Pascal. given the same car i don't see that happening often.

[Jolle]

Yes, hope for fully fledged honda works!

That would be interesting!

Well, I recon they still have all the (BMW) works team infrastructure, especially combined with R&D from Honda itself.

If so, it would heighten the crisis at McLaren, loosing their works status once more, their future will become midfield, battling with Williams, STR and Haas.