Renault Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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It seems to me Renault were making a lot more progress when Mario was working with them. Since then we've barely heard a peep and their new engine architecture has barely improved upon the old one as far as I can tell.
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Cyril would make a good politician, promise everything, talk double dutch and deliver little! Hopefully the Renault engine can start delivering some decent grunt, i can`t see it getting near Merc qualifying mode but in race mode it should be somewhere near...Red Bull probably aren`t HP about the situation but they haven`t really got any other choice....have they!

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Renault has introduced an upgrade its managing director Cyril Abiteboul claims is worth two tenths of a second., Autosport.

Any info on this upgrade?

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As I gather it from AMuS, something on the engine management side (do not know the meaning of 'Kennfelder').

Neue Kennfelder für die Motorsoftware haben dem Renault V6-Turbo mehr Power eingehaucht, ohne dass Renault etwas am Motor selbst ändern musste. „Der Sprung ist signifikant“, lobt Marko. Das will etwas heißen. Red Bull spart sonst eher mit Lob für den Motorenpartner.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 86450.html

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I think that Kennfelder refers to engine mapping.

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New inputs or better resolution in the mapping.

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Abiteboul said it was 0.2 seconds. Is this possible with a software update?

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is it possible 0.2 sn improvement some part which change allowed
this parts list at page 84.
http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/Tech ... t-2016.pdf

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TNTHead wrote:
24 Jun 2017, 08:59
I think that Kennfelder refers to engine mapping.
Exactly, Kennfelder=engine mapping

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I take the 0.2 sec improvement is around the "standard" track Barcelona. Could mean 0.35 at Azerbaijan. Hope they didn't mean 0.2 sec at Azerbaijan, but whatever improvement is welcome of course.

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3 Renault PU failures yesterday... not really a good prospect and I thought they were working hard on the reliability.

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Auto Motor und Sport hints about the software update the following:
"Auf der Uhr machten die Verbesserungen in der Motorsoftware im Bereich Zündung und Einspritzung zwei Zehntel aus."
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 91579.html

Zündung und Einspritzung: ignition and fuel injection. So may be more than only engine mapping.

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Fuel injection spray pattern, and timing is worth half a second from their current state. So a few tenths from better utilizing the current hardware is not unrealistic.
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lawnmower wrote:
24 Jun 2017, 09:57
Abiteboul said it was 0.2 seconds. Is this possible with a software update?
The "spark plugs" are free to change... so you know what that means..
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
30 Jun 2017, 01:04
lawnmower wrote:
24 Jun 2017, 09:57
Abiteboul said it was 0.2 seconds. Is this possible with a software update?
The "spark plugs" are free to change... so you know what that means..
They put in new spark plugs?