Vasconia wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 15:59
Squid wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 15:41
People calling for Honda to quit F1 really have no idea of the kind of damage that would cause to the sport. If their current situation is already making other manufacturers wary of joining F1, Honda exiting would pretty much take F1 off the table entirely. While for the layman it seems that Honda is just that incompetent, the reality is just that it's really that hard to catch up. Manufacturers know that if Honda with all their resources are having a hard time, they would very likely not fare much better.
You are right but its clear that they could learn from Honda´s mistakess:
1. You need to take more time to build a good hybrid PU before you join the competition.
2. You need to work together with the chasis manufacturer(the team) and not trying to do everything in your own.
Those have been the biggest mistakes made by Honda IMO. Meanwhile Porsche thinks about joining F1 in 2021 if I am not wrong, I guess they won´t make the same mistakes.
There is a problem with those 2 points.
The first one is that Honda wanted one more year before returning, but McLaren pushed them to join earlier than they wanted because their Mercedes partnership was running out after 2014.
The second is that they did work together with the chassis manufacturer. So much so in fact that they made their flawed size zero engine in order to fit it on McLaren's tiny chassis, as McLaren insisted on giving Peter Prodromou, their designer and Newey's protegé, as much freedom as possible to come up with the best aero. As Wazari stated in the Honda PU thread, he'd never seen an engine made to tailor a chassis before, usually it's the other way around.