2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

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Yes I believe that they will be better in 2018. Mclaren also built better car every year so I expect McLaren will do better car. İf Honda can do a PU 2017 level ( maybe not beginning of year but after first update) they will be good place and ready to fight for WCC WDC.

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I've read somewhere that COSWORTH management is somewhat tied with Mclaren Group (few people have good amount of shares at both companies) and I would not be surprised to see Mclaren going with them from 2021.
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Well Zak is Cosworth Board Member isn't he?

@ the Interview with Zak: If you want to take some positives out of it the McLaren Chassis and Aero Team frighten Merc and Ferrari. :twisted:
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There is testing next week after the race for all teams. In this occasion, the last one, they can test what they want and free to try any new solution for next upgrades up to spec 4, without limited laps. Really crucial.
If the results are not good, next performance upgrades will not lead to important improvements. Hence Alonso will quit Honda. That's it
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19 Jul 2017, 10:18
No Private Test. They are testing Tires for Pirelli today and tomorrow. You can't develop your Car there.
https://twitter.com/svandoorne/status/8 ... 6312983552

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Thunders wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 14:11

@ the Interview with Zak: If you want to take some positives out of it the McLaren Chassis and Aero Team frighten Merc and Ferrari. :twisted:
I think they're scared that Honda will leave F1.. Toto already said it in many interviews

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Thunders wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 14:11
@ the Interview with Zak: If you want to take some positives out of it the McLaren Chassis and Aero Team frighten Merc and Ferrari. :twisted:
This would be funny if McLaren hadn't gotten rid of the Mercedes PU deal at the beginning of this new regulation era. I'm not sure if Zak doesn't know that or if perhaps he's doing all he can to keep up spirits. Regardless, you can't sell now the idea that they'd be winners if only they had the Merc PU, when the rationale for getting rid of the Merc PU was due to the fact they felt they'd never be able to get on par with the works teams.

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GoranF1 wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 13:51
https://twitter.com/hlawiczka/status/887613953056100352

@ZakB why didnt you told us you were working on this?
Man, there are so many optimistic people in the world. :mrgreen:

At least they 3-4 seasons to develop a good engine. They could make a good job, it can´t be worse than Honda. :mrgreen:

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santos wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 13:34
In the begining it was because the others had started the development three years later, now it's because of the tokens... They can have the Money, the resources, but it seems that they will have this engine working properly by the time it will be replaced.
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The problem is that they are lost. They came with their own design, they failed miserably. Now they have copied some parts of Mercedes PU, they are failing in some basic elements(duration of basic components, structural problems, reliability,etc). It will take a lot of time to develop a great PU and by that time Alonso will be out, and McLaren will/would find themselves in a very complicated situation.

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Vasconia wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 15:32
GoranF1 wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 13:51
https://twitter.com/hlawiczka/status/887613953056100352

@ZakB why didnt you told us you were working on this?
Man, there are so many optimistic people in the world. :mrgreen:

At least they 3-4 seasons to develop a good engine. They could make a good job, it can´t be worse than Honda. :mrgreen:
Unless we dont know when the development started.....
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HPD wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 14:45
Thunders wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 14:11

@ the Interview with Zak: If you want to take some positives out of it the McLaren Chassis and Aero Team frighten Merc and Ferrari. :twisted:
I think they're scared that Honda will leave F1.. Toto already said it in many interviews
He really Sounds like a Saint when he says that right....? :mrgreen:
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HPD wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 17:30
https://twitter.com/pirellisport/status ... 6260617218

135 laps.. Not bad, right? 8)
How many engines?
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Michael Schmidt AMuS:
30-40hp update in Austin or Mexico
Gap now 70hp
Possibility for 2018 Mclaren Renault.
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GoranF1 wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 19:42
Michael Schmidt AMuS:
30-40hp update in Austin or Mexico
Gap now 70hp
Possibility for 2018 Mclaren Renault.
How about we stop with this rubbish, eh? Everyone knows Mclaren is sticking with Honda, Ferrari/Merc not interested and Renault engine isn't good enough to win races. Better to stop the Mclaren to Mercedes, Mclaren to Renault junk rumors.
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So there's an update coming in Belgium. Or Japan. Or USA. Or Mexico. Right ... we need to add Italy, Singapore and Malaysia rumours :-)