No More Grid Girls - replaced by Grid Kids

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McHonda wrote:
07 Feb 2018, 20:31
I think most will have calmed down about it by then.
Some never will. What do kids say today, "haters gonna hate" or something like that?
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dans79 wrote:
07 Feb 2018, 20:38
McHonda wrote:
07 Feb 2018, 20:31
I think most will have calmed down about it by then.
Some never will. What do kids say today, "haters gonna hate" or something like that?
True enough but there'll be something else to get outraged about shortly and they'll get distracted by that and we'll just get on with watching the racing hopefully.

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I guess I can't be too pee'd off, my boy is the best driver on the grid and he's in the current best team. Stats dont lie.
Who knows, without women/models on thr grid, he will probably focus even more and win more races than usual.
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And Lando's not looking too bad a bet either.

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This is ridiculous. The 'grid girls' are hired professional models in their twenties. They're not about to be inspired to have a career in F1.
Yes and they are looking to further their career through being grid girls.
Hell there are some that are there in hopes to be the next Lana Turner.
Get real...lock this thread and the other grid girl topics and move on to something that is important or affects the sport.
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Here's Rebecca Jackson's view on the matter of Grid girls.

Good to get some perspective from a professional female racing driver:

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The glamour/glitz added by locally-themed grid girls was both longstanding & quite tame-tasteful,
esp' compared to say, a typical Las Vegas 'showgirls' presentation.

It was - by no means - 'sleazy', or 'exploitative'.

So, in all, the ban is IMHO a contentious call & one which certainly does warrant an appraisal of the 'reasoning' behind it.
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Hail22 wrote:
08 Feb 2018, 02:12
Here's Rebecca Jackson's view on the matter of Grid girls.

Good to get some perspective from a professional female racing driver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH1JnG_Wisg
She does make some very good points, I think I might have changed my mind about the ban. #-o
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Hail22 wrote:
08 Feb 2018, 02:12
Here's Rebecca Jackson's view on the matter of Grid girls.

Good to get some perspective from a professional female racing driver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH1JnG_Wisg
Thanks Hail22. So now how does Moose and Hurril see this video ? You are the guys who want to take away the female choice, your the guys saying they cant do that because YOU dont like it and you are the guys who are pointing the finger at people like me who want to support grid girls and let them do what they really want to do.

If you don't like girl on the grid but are fine with models on tv, models at shows ect ect then I just see that as you don't like women in F1. Now i know thats going to touch a nerve, and you will try and spin it around and wriggle out of that accusation. But after hearing a ladies view on the matter, is sure as hell makes you look bad.

Like i said days ago, why didn't anyone really ask the girls first. Because...... some men think they know whats best for the women.
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NathanOlder wrote:
06 Feb 2018, 17:57
Totally agree with that one dans79.

As for me wanting the grid girls back, its not to simply look at, its because its tradition. And I love tradition and history. The same reason I'm against the Halo. Fully open cockpits is tradition. Another example is Ferrari, I've never been a fan or liked them, but the sport needs them and they are a huge part of the sports history and tradition. Monaco is a perfect example, for todays F1 track its the biggest pile of puss on the calendar but its traditional and needs to stay on the calendar.

I like tradition, so I'm all for keeping anything traditional and the Grid girls are exactly that.
Me too. I also liked the grid girls because it was one more thing that differentiated one GP from another. Go to Austria, you had local women dressed in Dirndls. Go Abu Dhabi, again, local women representing their country. No different than seeing adverts of male and female models selling watches or any other products. It's all part of the "show", the entertainment. Every country that spends millions of dollars are doing that because they see Formula 1 as a platform to sell the image of their country and increase tourists coming and spending money. Just look at how F1 propelled the image of Singapore. Yes, we could probably have grid-men, but we all know that women are the more desirable sex to look at. In the animal world, it's often the other way around, but with humans, it's just like that. So?

I am still very interested to see what the countries that host these GPs in their countries think of all this. Even if some of them are perhaps (I think that's doubtful) happy to see the end of grid-girls, I am fairly certain no one wanted to have this discussion about this in the public domain. It would have been overall much better if Liberty-Media would have simply dropped them with no reasons given.

For a company that specializes in marketing and PR, I think this is their biggest blunder yet. And I personally don't think this will just go away. Most people watching F1 could probably care less about the "grid boys". I don't, and I don't think those kids that are already into motorsports will be ecstatic about their new function in F1. They should/could have given them a much better function than standing in that hectic area as the grid prepares to race and no one will give them any attention at all.
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could not agree more with the video and NathanOlder and Phils comments.
These days it's supposed to be about women making their own choices.
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strad wrote:
08 Feb 2018, 21:06
could not agree more with the video and NathanOlder and Phils comments.
These days it's supposed to be about women making their own choices.
Can't disagree with such a vague sentiment. Of course people like us, of our culture, want to advocate for freedom.

"______ should be free to make their own choices."

But there are the forces of legality, morality and ethics which determine our commitment to such statements. The corporations funding this spectacle are also "free to make their own choices" when it comes to the curating of their event.

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It’s fair enough that the corporations are free to make their own choices - but we are also free to discuss and scrutinize the reasons given for their choices - which is exactly what we are doing here. And i think we are also free to discuss the potential impact on these choices.

As i said previously, if they had simply dropped them, these topics would have run very different.
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I am awaiting the 'stop exploiting kids' element
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.

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When this creepy, ill-advised decision falls out fashion, I present the logical next-steps of the devolution:

-Grid Grannies
-Grid Babies
-Grid Dogs
-Grid Cats (this one proves frustrating because the cats can never be bothered to remain next to their poles; instead wandering aimlessly about the pit lane)

-Grid Pigs (this one lasts less than a season due to the internet releasing a squeal of outrage in regards to the pigs being detained in their airplane upon arrival to Bahrain)

-Grid Bots (selected from winning entrants of the "FIA Build a Non-objectifying Pole-holding Robot in Schools" competition)

-Grid Avatars (augmented reality number poles consisting of a pole with a weighted base, and nothing else, interfacing with soon-common personal VR devices, allowing anyone to render a convincing and unoffensive pole-holding person-place-or-thing)

Big Tea wrote:
08 Feb 2018, 22:14
I am awaiting the 'stop exploiting kids' element
Kids shouldn't be prostituted for advertising purposes.