HALO Approved for 2018

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Vasconia wrote:
23 Mar 2018, 11:34
AJI wrote:
23 Mar 2018, 10:24
The Halo has completely ruined all on-board camera angles. I'd rather they didn't show them at all anymore.
It's the gift that keeps on giving...
Same here, I found them completely annoying.
How about a camera mounted in the centre of the 'vagina' part of the Halo? That'd be a pretty good view.

Honestly, no pun intended...

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What happens if the car gets flipped?

Will they even be able to get out?

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DarkAlman wrote:
24 Mar 2018, 05:33
What happens if the car gets flipped?

Will they even be able to get out?
Yes - in fact, the drivers who have tested it said it's easier to get out of a flipped car with a halo than one without.

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So, Moose, can you state the names of the drivers - who 'signed off' - on that 'turned turtle' halo egress appraisal?
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J.A.W. wrote:
24 Mar 2018, 05:52
So, Moose, can you state the names of the drivers - who 'signed off' - on that 'turned turtle' halo egress appraisal?
Turns out, not a driver - the drivers have just seen the footage and agree it's better:
Autosport wrote: Mekies points out that marshals are trained to right any upside down car but says the FIA still tested the halo in upside-down scenarios.

It conducted a simple test with a dummy chassis, with its own safety expert Andy Mellor strapped in.

When the chassis was tipped upside down, the halo kept the front of the chassis higher off the ground than it would normally be and Mellor had no trouble getting himself out. Drivers have been shown a video of that test.

"It is actually preserving a better space for drivers," says Mekies, "because the car is resting on the front part of the halo, offering more space than they currently have compared to the ground.

"It's basically raising up the car compared to where it would be without it."

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:lol:

Moose and Jolle have shares in the halo for sure. Its like that guy trying to sell you something you don't want. No matter what you ask him he has an answer for it that doesn't actually answer your question.

The upside down part is no way answered as discussed at length in this thread. Dummy Car with no ,wings , wheels , PU ect, hard floor very slowly rolled over by hand ect ect

I will wait until I see it happen at the track before I beleive so BS video.
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NathanOlder wrote:
24 Mar 2018, 07:22
:lol:

Moose and Jolle have shares in the halo for sure. Its like that guy trying to sell you something you don't want. No matter what you ask him he has an answer for it that doesn't actually answer your question.

The upside down part is no way answered as discussed at length in this thread. Dummy Car with no ,wings , wheels , PU ect, hard floor very slowly rolled over by hand ect ect

I will wait until I see it happen at the track before I beleive so BS video.

Sure seems that way N-O, seeing as Moose yet again boldly claims "drivers" support the halo, but cannot
provide a single name, let alone a quorum/majority of drivers - going on the record - to back his contention.
"Well, we knocked the bastard off!"

Ed Hilary on being 1st to top Mt Everest,
(& 1st to do a surface traverse across Antarctica,
in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).

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Drivers may like the concept of more safety but that doesn't mean they like the implementation. :wink:
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Very good example of the canopy option at Melbourne (on the FA18 :wink: )

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Quote from Webber, just now, on Aussie TV, re: halo topic, & how he 'likes' it..

"Hate it", & "...so do the drivers".
"Well, we knocked the bastard off!"

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(& 1st to do a surface traverse across Antarctica,
in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).

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I caught that as well. :wink:
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actually I am shocked how fast I got used to it. And sometimes I even like it for its "rawness" rollcagey look. :o
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I think if they banned the little aero add ons and mandated that any fairing must fully enclose the halo then the T cam footage would be better (I found all the little aero bits unsightly).

On the C4 coverage they mentioned that Ross Brawn confirmed they were looking into putting a camera in the halo.

Now imagine if they could put one at (effectively) driver eye level...that WOULD be pretty cool!!
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Yeah, coz why would the driver need to see anything ahead of him, anyhow? L.o.l...

& I see that Formula E has now been lumbered with the halo bandwagon too..

As if those slow 'electric egg-beaters' really warranted having any more needless weight - lumped aboard.
"Well, we knocked the bastard off!"

Ed Hilary on being 1st to top Mt Everest,
(& 1st to do a surface traverse across Antarctica,
in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).

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J.A.W. wrote:
28 Mar 2018, 10:26
Yeah, coz why would the driver need to see anything ahead of him, anyhow? L.o.l...

& I see that Formula E has now been lumbered with the halo bandwagon too..

As if those slow 'electric egg-beaters' really warranted having any more needless weight - lumped aboard.
Well there's already a ruddy great pillar there. I'm simply suggesting a camera in it. Wouldn't have to be any bigger than the pillar currently is.
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