2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

[Ground Effect]

You're referring to the long run pace, right?

Correct.

Actualy race pace quite a bit better than Q pace.
Is it going to rain today?

I'm hoping against hope that their intense testing programme compromised their qualy and long run sims. Maybe there's still 2 or 3 tenths they can extract?

[M840TR]

Albert Fabrega : McLaren has worked tonight outside the time allowed to assemble new pieces that arrived yesterday night and to be able to test them today in free practice 3.

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 6517327874

[diffuser]

question, everyone seems to think that the problem with the Mclaren is mechanical/ low traction ( suspension design etc ) however, everytime it rained and Alonso went out... he was on the top of the timesheets.... now if its wet its always low grip / traction. it wold be good to see a real qualy in the rain to mesure... what do you guys think about this?

So we all agree its low speed traction leading to the use of more aero DF. We are not all in agreement with regards to if we think mechanical grip has anything to do with it. McLaren claim its solely aero.

So when you think about McLaren running more DF which leads to TOP SPEED penalty...that top speed penalty is mitigated in the rain for obvious reasons. That is, in the rain, they get all of the gain from the extra DF and none of the pain. Not to mention that any lack of power from the PU is also neutralized.

So yes...it would be interesting.

[ALO_Power]

Albert Fabrega : McLaren has worked tonight outside the time allowed to assemble new pieces that arrived yesterday night and to be able to test them today in free practice 3.

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 6517327874

Not much to test now in wet conditions tho :/

[Ground Effect]

Albert Fabrega : McLaren has worked tonight outside the time allowed to assemble new pieces that arrived yesterday night and to be able to test them today in free practice 3.

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 6517327874

Not much to test now in wet conditions tho :/

I'm assuming these parts weren't planned to be run in the race? Probably in preparation for Hungary?

[M840TR]

Seems like almost everything in practice was about preparing for Hungary.

[max_speed]

this car is a pig running in the race of horses.i have not seen any improvement in mclaren situation since barcelona. season is over better they focus on 2019

[nzjrs]

Any idea what is going on with Stoffel's car?

[Chanman141]

Any idea what is going on with Stoffel's car?

I think I read on Autosport live updates that it was a shift issue

[MtthsMlw]

https://twitter.com/wbuxtonofficial/sta ... 0797253633

[Ground Effect]

https://twitter.com/wbuxtonofficial/sta ... 0797253633

We all hope he finds his speed, but he's been struggling for a while now. He's 10-0 down in qualifying against Fernando this year, 27-3 including 2017 races In 2 of those weekends, Fernando was going to start last due to penalties, he only comprehensively beat Fernando in qualifying at Malaysia 2017. I really hope he picks up, because I believe he and Lando are the long term future of Mclaren. Mclaren shouldn't have to offer $20M trying to get Ricciardo, if Stoffel was performing, they would be set, regardless of what Fernando does next year.

[Ground Effect]

Maybe Stoffel requires a new chassis

[Ground Effect]

Maybe Stoffel requires a new chassis

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alon ... n-1062372/

[mwillems]

question, everyone seems to think that the problem with the Mclaren is mechanical/ low traction ( suspension design etc ) however, everytime it rained and Alonso went out... he was on the top of the timesheets.... now if its wet its always low grip / traction. it wold be good to see a real qualy in the rain to mesure... what do you guys think about this?

So we all agree its low speed traction leading to the use of more aero DF. We are not all in agreement with regards to if we think mechanical grip has anything to do with it. McLaren claim its solely aero.

So when you think about McLaren running more DF which leads to TOP SPEED penalty...that top speed penalty is mitigated in the rain for obvious reasons. That is, in the rain, they get all of the gain from the extra DF and none of the pain. Not to mention that any lack of power from the PU is also neutralized.

So yes...it would be interesting.

Did Mclaren say it is solely aero? They said they have a correlation issue. Ivan then said it wasnt exactly correlation. This makes me think the way the car is maintaining contact with the ground isnt what they expect.

Canada for instance, they ran a particularly hard suspension.... i do.wonder if the suspension causes the car to move too much and causes the floor to stop working. This is something they might find hard to test in a wind tunnel.

[BrunoH]

i was really wishing we could have seen wet qualy.. for sure even to them might had helped to see if the issues are more mechanical or aero or whatever... i was very keen to check how they performed in the wet. If in the wet the car was top 6 in qualy then for sure it wold be aero related.