2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

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bauc wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 09:38
What if Lando is promoted to official test driver & back up for next year?
That's what he is already, for 2018.
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According to AMuS Ocon might be in Mclaren as soon as Monza, leaving Vandoorne without a seat.

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Alonso vs Ocon will be interesting. But what would be Mclaren's reason for developing a driver for one of their rivals, while destorying any meaning of their young drivers program?

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Who's to say that Alonso might step aside? They could compare Ocon to Vandoorne directly.
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Yes, that's the point, Alonso stays and has a nice fight with Mercedes' start of the future, Ocon.

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With Bob Fernly out of Force India, is it likely he gets a place in Mclaren and in what capacity if that happens?

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M840TR wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:47
With Bob Fernly out of Force India, is it likely he gets a place in Mclaren and in what capacity if that happens?
I think it has to be Mclaren or Williams. With either he has to be the 'controller' of the team, probably just below the name that 'runs' the team like Zak or Clare

I was just wondering if there was anything in the Stroll connection of a driver and team coordinator moving from FI to Williams as part of the deal?
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alexx_88 wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:18
Alonso vs Ocon will be interesting. But what would be Mclaren's reason for developing a driver for one of their rivals, while destorying any meaning of their young drivers program?
It would be a bit of a head scratcher if it does pan out that way. Don't get me wrong, if it did happen, I'd be thrilled, because in my opinion, Esteban is the real deal, but like you said, on a business side, why would Mclaren develop a Mercedes driver? Are Mclaren eyeing some Mercedes personnel? Are they getting paid, or is it simply to improve short term competitiveness, with a more capable driver, based on their performances? Would they now have an option for him permanently?
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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Big Tea wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:51
M840TR wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:47
With Bob Fernly out of Force India, is it likely he gets a place in Mclaren and in what capacity if that happens?
I think it has to be Mclaren or Williams. With either he has to be the 'controller' of the team, probably just below the name that 'runs' the team like Zak or Clare

I was just wondering if there was anything in the Stroll connection of a driver and team coordinator moving from FI to Williams as part of the deal?
But Williams is out for technical staff while Mclaren management staff. Which is why I think they'll want monetary compensation instead, like with Bottas.

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Ground Effect wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:58
alexx_88 wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:18
Alonso vs Ocon will be interesting. But what would be Mclaren's reason for developing a driver for one of their rivals, while destorying any meaning of their young drivers program?
It would be a bit of a head scratcher if it does pan out that way. Don't get me wrong, if it did happen, I'd be thrilled, because in my opinion, Esteban is the real deal, but like you said, on a business side, why would Mclaren develop a Mercedes driver? Are Mclaren eyeing some Mercedes personnel? Are they getting paid, or is it simply to improve short term competitiveness, with a more capable driver, based on their performances? Would they now have an option for him permanently?
Ocon won't get a Merc seat till at least 2021, so why not hire a highly rated driver free of cost?

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M840TR wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 13:00
Big Tea wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:51
M840TR wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:47
With Bob Fernly out of Force India, is it likely he gets a place in Mclaren and in what capacity if that happens?
I think it has to be Mclaren or Williams. With either he has to be the 'controller' of the team, probably just below the name that 'runs' the team like Zak or Clare

I was just wondering if there was anything in the Stroll connection of a driver and team coordinator moving from FI to Williams as part of the deal?
But Williams is out for technical staff while Mclaren management staff. Which is why I think they'll want monetary compensation instead, like with Bottas.
He would be an asset where ever he went. I cannot think why Stroll would not want him where he is, unless its 'principles'
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M840TR wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:47
With Bob Fernly out of Force India, is it likely he gets a place in Mclaren and in what capacity if that happens?
They Have Zak, they have Gil... I can't see where he would fit in, but you never know. I think Mclaren's needs are greater in the engineering and Technical departments.
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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M840TR wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 13:02
Ground Effect wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:58
alexx_88 wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:18
Alonso vs Ocon will be interesting. But what would be Mclaren's reason for developing a driver for one of their rivals, while destorying any meaning of their young drivers program?
It would be a bit of a head scratcher if it does pan out that way. Don't get me wrong, if it did happen, I'd be thrilled, because in my opinion, Esteban is the real deal, but like you said, on a business side, why would Mclaren develop a Mercedes driver? Are Mclaren eyeing some Mercedes personnel? Are they getting paid, or is it simply to improve short term competitiveness, with a more capable driver, based on their performances? Would they now have an option for him permanently?
Ocon won't get a Merc seat till at least 2021, so why not hire a highly rated driver free of cost?
because McLaren has his pilot better than Okon, Norris

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Big Tea wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 13:09
M840TR wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 13:00
Big Tea wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:51


I think it has to be Mclaren or Williams. With either he has to be the 'controller' of the team, probably just below the name that 'runs' the team like Zak or Clare

I was just wondering if there was anything in the Stroll connection of a driver and team coordinator moving from FI to Williams as part of the deal?
But Williams is out for technical staff while Mclaren management staff. Which is why I think they'll want monetary compensation instead, like with Bottas.
He would be an asset where ever he went. I cannot think why Stroll would not want him where he is, unless its 'principles'
Apparently it has something to do with his close ties to Vijay Mallya.

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Ground Effect wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 13:12
M840TR wrote:
23 Aug 2018, 12:47
With Bob Fernly out of Force India, is it likely he gets a place in Mclaren and in what capacity if that happens?
They Have Zak, they have Gil... I can't see where he would fit in, but you never know. I think Mclaren's needs are greater in the engineering and Technical departments.
Zak isn't an experienced CEO in F1 and could use a sidekick given all the restructuring.