2018 McLaren F1 Team - Renault

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Ground Effect wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 22:53
M840TR wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 21:28
Lots of disappointed faces after today.

Vandoorne:
I had a day full of problems again today and it’s not been the best start to the weekend. The performance today was definitely not there.
Obviously they want to see how we compare, but I think first of all the team should give me a car that is able to run on track before we can be compared.
Gil:
Overall today has proved to be a difficult day for us. This circuit with its long straights is really exposing one of our biggest weaknesses in straight-line speed.
It's becoming increasingly difficult for Stoffel to hide his frustrations. He's under a lot of pressure to perform, yet he's not being given a reliable car. Meanwhile, Lando appears to have at least, impressed today, in Fernando's car.
I feel for Stoffel, Ocon getting a seat fitting, Lando not looking shabby, all during his home Grand Prix.
Wouldn't read too much into that. Gil confirmed their line-up will not change this year, after which everyone backtracked their Ocon to Mclaren in Monza comments.

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diffuser wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 23:08
M840TR wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 21:28
Lots of disappointed faces after today.

Vandoorne:
I had a day full of problems again today and it’s not been the best start to the weekend. The performance today was definitely not there.
Obviously they want to see how we compare, but I think first of all the team should give me a car that is able to run on track before we can be compared.
Gil:
Overall today has proved to be a difficult day for us. This circuit with its long straights is really exposing one of our biggest weaknesses in straight-line speed.

Including my own. Starting to get fedup.
Can't wait for next year to be let down again.

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i would be happy if alonso leaves F1 from next race onwards. no signs of improvement from mcallen , keep testing and testing. this team is going no where. anyone expecting next year to be a miracle will be disappointed again.they are near the level of williams now.

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max_speed wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 05:28
i would be happy if alonso leaves F1 from next race onwards. no signs of improvement from mcallen , keep testing and testing. this team is going no where. anyone expecting next year to be a miracle will be disappointed again.they are near the level of williams now.
Then you should pay more attention to what is their plan for rest of the season.

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techman wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 11:06
Once again, your opinion, which you're entitled to, but don't pass it off as facts. You say why, that is your logic, and you can't force it on everyone around. Based on that, I'm guessing Ricciardo brings chaos and has bashed other teams, that's why Ferrari nor Mercedes didn't sign him. Why didn't Ferrari attempt to sign Hamilton before he re-signed with Mercedes. Why didn't Mercedes try to sign Vettel last year before he extended with Ferrari? I guess they're all chaotic drivers. The main reason why Fernando or Ricciardo won't get signed, is because of their main drivers wouldn't want them. Even Ricciardo with his amiable personality would not be welcomed.
lets say mercedes did not have lewis for 2019 and ferrari did not have vettel for 2019. do you seriously believe both merc and ferrari will try to get alonso back? they will NOT. they would rather go for riccardo as their number 1 driver as he is not toxic. a driver cannot be above the team. both ferrari and mercedes learnt lesson with alonso. he has burnt every bridge possible. only mclaren will bring him no other team will .because you cant run a team with one driver causing chaos everywhere
dude, since nobody has said it already, you are a moron. you have no clue about anything that goes on behind the scenes in f1 and you ramble a bunch of dumb nonsense. honda "fans" act like alonso kidnapped hondas children or something. all he did was speak reality. you need to grow a backbone.

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Overall today has proved to be a difficult day for us. This circuit with its long straights is really exposing one of our biggest weaknesses in straight-line speed.
Didnt mclaren say the same thing last year. but apparently redbull is over 2 sec quicker with same engine. just got to show how dominant efficient a chassis is redbull and mclaren never had a good chassis. i guess it not too late to correct your mistakes.

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M840TR wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 23:17
Ground Effect wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 22:53
M840TR wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 21:28
Lots of disappointed faces after today.

Vandoorne:

Gil:
It's becoming increasingly difficult for Stoffel to hide his frustrations. He's under a lot of pressure to perform, yet he's not being given a reliable car. Meanwhile, Lando appears to have at least, impressed today, in Fernando's car.
I feel for Stoffel, Ocon getting a seat fitting, Lando not looking shabby, all during his home Grand Prix.
Wouldn't read too much into that. Gil confirmed their line-up will not change this year, after which everyone backtracked their Ocon to Mclaren in Monza comments.
the pressure was really on because his girlfriend was in the back of the garage today. on top of everything else.

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dude, since nobody has said it already, you are a moron. you have no clue about anything that goes on behind the scenes in f1 and you ramble a bunch of dumb nonsense. honda "fans" act like alonso kidnapped hondas children or something. all he did was speak reality. you need to grow a backbone.
alonso is known to hype himself . He done it a lot of times. No top team want him now. go check horner intervew on skysports , where he said flavio alonso manager inquired from redbull about a seat for alonso in 2019 and horner said no to flavio because they would like to stick to their young driver program. It does not make sense for redbull honda to get alonso. why should redbull pay a lot of money to get this guy moaning and creating chaos to the team. redbull does not want to create chaos with their new engine partner. flavio making thing up and alonso believing them. Just watch alonso next year at indy. i predicting chaos. You need to grow some common sense

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F1NAC wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 14:58
What bothers me with Alonso story... Let's say he had a contract offer at 2011 (as he stated ), why did he reject them? at that time he was saying something like " Newey actually won the championship" and such and such... That was then perfect chance to demonstrate how weak or bad Vettel is then(as that was/is his opinion about him)..
well he was at ferrari. i mean history would suggest, at that point, that he was in the right place. he came within 5 points of 2 wdc's in 2010 and 2012. hindsight is 20/20.

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techman wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 07:25
dude, since nobody has said it already, you are a moron. you have no clue about anything that goes on behind the scenes in f1 and you ramble a bunch of dumb nonsense. honda "fans" act like alonso kidnapped hondas children or something. all he did was speak reality. you need to grow a backbone.
alonso is known to hype himself . He done it a lot of times. No top team want him now. go check horner intervew on skysports , where he said flavio alonso manager inquired from redbull about a seat for alonso in 2019 and horner said no to flavio because they would like to stick to their young driver program. It does not make sense for redbull honda to get alonso. why should redbull pay a lot of money to get this guy moaning and creating chaos to the team. redbull does not want to create chaos with their new engine partner. flavio making thing up and alonso believing them. Just watch alonso next year at indy. i predicting chaos. You need to grow some common sense
theres no chaos anywhere unless part of his team isnt performing as well as he expects from himself. any competitive person would understand that completely. how many times has verstappen and every single person at redbull called out renault? way more than alonso ever said about honda. well guess whos under the burner starting next year? but no, it wont come to that because of the trauma honda had to endure from alonso, they will make sure to put it in writing that they cant handle harsh critisism. you and honda both should grow backbones.

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zoroastar wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 07:27
F1NAC wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 14:58
What bothers me with Alonso story... Let's say he had a contract offer at 2011 (as he stated ), why did he reject them? at that time he was saying something like " Newey actually won the championship" and such and such... That was then perfect chance to demonstrate how weak or bad Vettel is then(as that was/is his opinion about him)..
well he was at ferrari. i mean history would suggest, at that point, that he was in the right place. he came within 5 points of 2 wdc's in 2010 and 2012. hindsight is 20/20.
Yes but Ferrari got only 1 victory and RB mastered those regulation at that time. 2012 was close only because that Ferrari was reliable, otherwise it would be over before the last race

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max_speed wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 05:28
i would be happy if alonso leaves F1 from next race onwards. no signs of improvement from mcallen , keep testing and testing. this team is going no where. anyone expecting next year to be a miracle will be disappointed again.they are near the level of williams now.
Don't expect much in terms of car development for this year. All efforts during FP sessions is for the 2019 season. They're trying to avoid the catastrophe of this year by shifting attention early. Next year will be a starting point, Zak has already said there's no quick fix, Fernando isn't racing, that says it all.
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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F1NAC wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 14:58
What bothers me with Alonso story... Let's say he had a contract offer at 2011 (as he stated ), why did he reject them? at that time he was saying something like " Newey actually won the championship" and such and such... That was then perfect chance to demonstrate how weak or bad Vettel is then(as that was/is his opinion about him)..
If both Ferrar and RBR can fight for titles as it was the situation in 2010, I´d say 90% of drivers will prefer Ferrari, the remaining 10% will be RBR drivers, and only because they must defend their team :wink:

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techman wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 07:25
dude, since nobody has said it already, you are a moron. you have no clue about anything that goes on behind the scenes in f1 and you ramble a bunch of dumb nonsense. honda "fans" act like alonso kidnapped hondas children or something. all he did was speak reality. you need to grow a backbone.
alonso is known to hype himself . He done it a lot of times. No top team want him now. go check horner intervew on skysports , where he said flavio alonso manager inquired from redbull about a seat for alonso in 2019 and horner said no to flavio because they would like to stick to their young driver program. It does not make sense for redbull honda to get alonso. why should redbull pay a lot of money to get this guy moaning and creating chaos to the team. redbull does not want to create chaos with their new engine partner. flavio making thing up and alonso believing them. Just watch alonso next year at indy. i predicting chaos. You need to grow some common sense
Yeah Indy will be chaos, at least for organization, as Alonso will bring a lot more fans to the event than they´re used to :mrgreen:

Flavio is not Alonso´s manager for a decade at least. That´s how informed you are Mr. predictions :lol: #-o

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Flavio is not Alonso´s manager for a decade at least. That´s how informed you are Mr. predictions :lol: #-o

well according to this article flavio was alonso manager last year,https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-auto ... Grand-Prix.

Both flavio and alonso are close and i believe alonso believe in flavio. flavio might have inquired about a seat from horner. horner said no and flavio being flavio twisted the story and told alonso and alonso believe redbull wanted him. :lol: