Tyres - Bridgestones tactics...

[axle]

If there is no tyre war anymore, why are the tyres chosen by Bridgestone always so marginal? Why do they make tyres that can't take agressive driving?

The equipment is, as we know, the same for all (so don't assume I'm bleating on behalf of LH) and has to be managed appropriately. It stricks me that we'd see more of the drivers being a damn sight more aggressive if they wern't all treading carefully on these tyres that are simply too fragile. Take Alonso in Germany, he was ringing the neck of the Renault, being flambouyant and being a racer, but the rear tyres degraded to the point whereby he was limping along unable to keep up after an all too brief contest. I underlined that point, because no one expects a tyre to take punishment for ages and ages, but the wear rate/sensitivity of them seems too high to me.

I don't feel like the end to the tyre war has really benefitted the racing. What do you guys think?

[zac510]

I think quite the opposite. I don't there is much evidence that they are marginal. There are only isolated incidents where the tyre wear has been marginal.

I think Bridgestone are doing a good job of providing a tyre that is both durable and fast. Look at NASCAR/Indy last weekend for an example of how not to do it!

Or compare it to the rocks Goodyear used to deliver back in 1997.

[modbaraban]

As an alternative point of view consider this.

Maybe the teams trying to make the most of the tires put them into extreme and marginal conditions no matter how strong the tyres are? The stronger the tyres the more extreme and punishing the setups used.

[Conceptual]

I would assume that the hard-super soft compound is based upon track abrasiveness more than anything else. But it would be GREAT if they would also take track temperature into consideration. I'm sure that tracks like Malaysia and Bahrain will have automatic tem consideration, but I think the medium/soft compounds would have met with more team approval in Hockenheim than the soft/s.soft did.

And about punnishment.

Why not bring back the 2005 spec Bridgestones? They would last through Quali, and the entire race!!! I don't see why with a control tyre they didn't go back to them for durability if nothing else.

And if the FIA bans refueling in the near future, B.stone is also going to need to bring em out anyways to get rid of pit stops altogether. Obviously they would have to be slicks, but I think it would work well, even without tyre blankets!

Has it helped the racing? YES. It is down to the best team/driver combo now, now which tyre manufacturer has the better "molecular velcro" effect to any given track, and that is how it should be!

Chris

[modbaraban]

Why not bring back the 2005 spec Bridgestones? They would last through Quali, and the entire race!!! I don't see why with a control tyre they didn't go back to them for durability if nothing else.

The mechanical grip sucked hard! 2005 set the all time negative record for overtaking. That's why.

[gabsy]

It makes races much more interesting when a driver has to look after his tyres. It means that drivers have to try and go fast and look after their tyres at the same time.

[kekekeke]

What I don't like is that BS is the one that gets to choose what two compound to bring to the races. I don't mind the two compound rule, but BS should bring all the available compounds and let the teams choose which 2 compounds to race.

For example why did BS bring the two softest compounds to Hungary when there is high temperature and high degradation? We all know Ferraris are more gentle on the tires. this gives them the advantage. The fact that the championships could be decided by BS is what worries me.

[MattF1]

Perhaps then only two compounds should be used, and the teams would all have to work around the same problems.

[zac510]

Some of you guys would see bias and conspiracy in a coin-flipping contest!

[MattF1]

Some of you guys would see bias and conspiracy in a coin-flipping contest!

Well the two sides of the coin are mot uniform, so the coin manufacturer could have a biased input. The coin flipper has a big part to play as he decides what force to use and what side to start from.

[axle]

Some of you guys would see bias and conspiracy in a coin-flipping contest!

I certainly wasn't suggesting that.

I just think these tyres are too quick to go off, we're getting back to Qualifying tyres in some instances and it's just pathetic watching people too scared to battle cause they have to nurse their tyres.

It seems that the whole range is too soft imo.

[zac510]

I certainly wasn't suggesting that.

I just think these tyres are too quick to go off, we're getting back to Qualifying tyres in some instances and it's just pathetic watching people too scared to battle cause they have to nurse their tyres.

It seems that the whole range is too soft imo.

It was meant a bit tongue in cheek I responded to your original post earlier.. I don't see the same evidence that you do for them wearing too quickly. Can you give some more examples?
At no race has the whole field had an excessive wear problem.