FIA clarifies chicane-cutting position

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Autosport.com: FIA clarifies chicane-cutting position

By Jonathan Noble Friday, September 12th 2008, 16:29 GMT

"Formula One drivers have been told that they should wait at least one corner before resuming a fight for position in the event of future chicane-cutting incidents."

The very fact that the FIA had to clarify this proves that it was unreasonable to punish Hamilton. I'm a Ferrari fan, but I don't want races decided after the race--I didn't hear about it until Wednesday! The moderators on Speed TV expressed no concern with the way Hamilton gave back the position and then repassed. Raikkonen crashed anyway, so it's not like Hamilton stole a win from him.

I believe NASCAR decided a few years back that a win would not be changed after the race--NASCAR respects its fans, F1 doesn't. I'm not a NASCAR follower, but you can't deny their success. F1 continues to test the patience of its fans.

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you mean there is no need to get out the car round round it 3 times before continuing
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USAF1FAN wrote:I'm not a NASCAR follower, but you can't deny their success
world wide or just in america ?

if world wide yes you can deny its success, we mostly see it as a stage show
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NASCAR is popular in America, the rest of the World doesn't give a flying f**k about it.

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USAF1FAN wrote: The very fact that the FIA had to clarify this proves that it was unreasonable to punish Hamilton. I'm a Ferrari fan, but I don't want races decided after the race--I didn't hear about it until Wednesday! The moderators on Speed TV expressed no concern with the way Hamilton gave back the position and then repassed. Raikkonen crashed anyway, so it's not like Hamilton stole a win from him.

I believe NASCAR decided a few years back that a win would not be changed after the race--NASCAR respects its fans, F1 doesn't. I'm not a NASCAR follower, but you can't deny their success. F1 continues to test the patience of its fans.

Thom...
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=D>

Come on you guys! When Thom talked NASCAR he was just telling us his "fan background", maybe because we tend to think that Americans only like NASCAR (eventhough we have many American members :) )
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rookie question, what if that was the last corner?

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chicanes are usually at the end of long straights, I just can't remember one at the beginning

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nae wrote:you mean there is no need to get out the car round round it 3 times before continuing
Only at the Chinese GP! :lol:

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tifoly013usa wrote:rookie question, what if that was the last corner?
Penalties for corner cutting were not excluded from the rules :wink:

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USAF1FAN wrote:... F1 continues to test the patience of its fans...
Well, you know how it is (you live in NY!): the race never ends.
Ciro

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rjsa wrote:chicanes are usually at the end of long straights, I just can't remember one at the beginning
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Belatti wrote:
rjsa wrote:chicanes are usually at the end of long straights, I just can't remember one at the beginning
Magny Cours
tks

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Glad to see another New Yorker here.

Why do you hate on us for having NASCAR? I don't really care about it at all.

And the fact that they cleared up the rules is OK I think. But yeah, do something on the spot. I don't think it's that hard to spot infractions when you're trained to do that. I'd say they should've done something in the next 1 min (it was covered by the international feed). Had they penalized him there it wouldn't have been such a fuss. But they let the race end and I think they should've let it stay. (Note: I'm a Ferrari fan, but as my fellow New Yorker, I don't want races won this way either.)

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rjsa wrote:chicanes are usually at the end of long straights, I just can't remember one at the beginning
Sort of...

At Monza, after the 2nd Lesmo, was a long sweeping flat out bend (Curva del Serraglio) that ended at the beginning of the Variante Ascari. The Variante Ascari then ended at the entrance to the Curva Parabolica. To break up this long flat out section, at chicane was added at the end of the Curva del Serraglio or at the beginning of the Variante Ascari, depending upon how you wanted to look at it...

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USAF1FAN wrote:Autosport.com: FIA clarifies chicane-cutting position

By Jonathan Noble Friday, September 12th 2008, 16:29 GMT

"Formula One drivers have been told that they should wait at least one corner before resuming a fight for position in the event of future chicane-cutting incidents."

The very fact that the FIA had to clarify this proves that it was unreasonable to punish Hamilton. I'm a Ferrari fan, but I don't want races decided after the race--I didn't hear about it until Wednesday! The moderators on Speed TV expressed no concern with the way Hamilton gave back the position and then repassed. Raikkonen crashed anyway, so it's not like Hamilton stole a win from him.

I believe NASCAR decided a few years back that a win would not be changed after the race--NASCAR respects its fans, F1 doesn't. I'm not a NASCAR follower, but you can't deny their success. F1 continues to test the patience of its fans.

Thom...
New York
I too feel that the penalty was harsh and wrong.

In one of the meetings at Monza, Charlie made the claim that the one corner rule was already an established procedure. He was challenged by Pat Symonds who said that the one corner rule centred around an incident when Alonso gave back an unfairly taken place and immediately retook it. ALthough it had happened, Charlie did not see it happen and insisted that the manoeuvre be repeated. In the ensuing conversation the suggestion was made that a one corner rule should be introduced. It is worth pointing out that the idea came about to give Race Control time to see it happen and not because of slipstreaming.
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