2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[mwillems]

They'll bring upgrades regardless but it would definitely hurt their WCC position. Although, the Mgu-K fix is on both Mcl34s and Renault did significantly upgrade their facility recently at Viry which should help them with better simulation and quicken upgrades/mitigations; so there's that.

I guess that if they lose a front wing or several parts of the body get fire damage, their build capacity will be eaten up by ensuring they have adequate spares for a race.

Probably have several spares by now.

Hopefully! It's just conjecture on my part as they were racing to get development parts built over the past 6 weeks and then had substantial damage. How many of these spares do they carry or lose before they need to rebuild and replenish?

[langedweil]

I do not agree about Ves .. he is involved in incidents because he races.
Everyone that is racing is involved in incidents .. Ves, Vet, Rai, Hulk, Ricc, Sai, Gro, Mag, Per, Oco, Bot etc. Even Lewis used to make his f***ups when he wasn’t driving in first position. But aside from being an more than excellent driver, a lot of his achievements stem a lot from an utterly perfect car/team for over more than 4/5 yrs.
So this hollow Ves bashing is way too easy, as it is a common thing to do apparently. I just prefer racing with a knife between the teeth, regardless of who it is.
Maybe that’s why I don’t really like Charles; he is just too nice, too polite .. doesn’t seem sort of brave I guess. 70% of the field would have led the race in that car, in the same manner he did.
And as for Carlos, just assuming you’ve own a corner without keeping your eyes open bites you in the butt every now and then.

But .. all in all, it’s just my opinion, I’m not at all entitled to know it all.

[Capharol]

Langedweil. ... it's VER/Ver and not VES/Ves ....

[Jackles-UK]

Norris Bahrain start - Lap 5 Onboard. Car's a monster in exit & braking. Not a good launch though. I've noticed he doesn't move around as much during the formation lap to warm up the tyres; maybe it's because of that.

https://streamable.com/88ne1

Great video, thanks for sharing.

It’s really interesting to see that Lando has been able to transfer his braking technique from F2 into F1. He downshifts more progressively than other drivers, matching the revs to the speed of the car to get the car slowed down on the rear axle and prevent the fronts from locking (aside from the the odd unloaded bite in yaw at T10). I noticed this in some of the F2 races I watched last year (particularly in Hungary in the wet where he was a second faster than the rest of the field at some points) and it bodes well for the future when he feels more confident to throw caution to the wind and is let loose to “lick the stamp & send it”!

Another observation is that the ratios in the MCL34 seem closer in gears 3-5 but longer in 6-8 compared to the Red Bull/TR’s. From the video, at least, Lando frequently closed up on corner exit until the cars hit high velocity when it sort of evened out despite the slipstream advantage.

[zoroastar]

I do not agree about Ves .. he is involved in incidents because he races.
Everyone that is racing is involved in incidents .. Ves, Vet, Rai, Hulk, Ricc, Sai, Gro, Mag, Per, Oco, Bot etc. Even Lewis used to make his f***ups when he wasn’t driving in first position. But aside from being an more than excellent driver, a lot of his achievements stem a lot from an utterly perfect car/team for over more than 4/5 yrs.
So this hollow Ves bashing is way too easy, as it is a common thing to do apparently. I just prefer racing with a knife between the teeth, regardless of who it is.
Maybe that’s why I don’t really like Charles; he is just too nice, too polite .. doesn’t seem sort of brave I guess. 70% of the field would have led the race in that car, in the same manner he did.
And as for Carlos, just assuming you’ve own a corner without keeping your eyes open bites you in the butt every now and then.

But .. all in all, it’s just my opinion, I’m not at all entitled to know it all.

but on the grid its a "known thing" to beware when racing VES. not many people are going to argue his talent, or that they dont like aggressive racing. its the fact that he has a history of making double defensive moves, and using opponents cars to slow his car down instead of his brakes. so if a "normal" racing incident occurs, they are going to automatically point their fingers at him. especially if its their favorite team that suffers for it. if you look at sainz braking into that corner, it looks a lot like max doesnt brake at all haha

[langedweil]

This being the McL thread, let’s not drag this on too much. However, funny thing is when Lewis, Ricc, Lecl does the exact same move (and Ricc has a name for it), it is just fantastic. I just think it’s not really fair to the guy to put Carlos’ damage in his shoes. Carlos should just be a little more focussed, he’s a very decent driver but he just need to be a bit more race-savvy at times ..

[mclaren111]

Even though it's only testing, the times look decent...

[fouad1979]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mcla ... ontent=www

McLaren thinks it is too much to expect it to be able to regularly battle Red Bull from now on, despite its promising performance in the Bahrain Grand Prix.

Remember when eric bouillier was at the helmet he was always giving false expectation we have a new car we have massive upgrade correlation 100% we ar going the challenge Redbull and bullsheet quotes now its different they do the opposite they are always safe about what they say and not talking about big upgrades or gps data about the chassis now the mouth is shut and the talking is in the track

[fouad1979]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3PTCtZWAAIhwuw.jpg


Even though it's only testing, the times look decent...

There is no doubt that the mclaren was the fourth fastest car or even third if sainz didnt have his contact with max i think he was going to challenge Redbull for the 4 place now maybe it was track performance we have to see what they will do in china

[Espresso]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3PTCtZWAAIhwuw.jpg


Even though it's only testing, the times look decent...

Yes very very decent (on C3 tyres)
Well (it looks to me after 2 races) McLaren designed a good chassis. Feels good to see they didn't loose there 'touch'. Now its'about getting the engine surviving the race.... Let's wait and see for Shanghai.
I'd give Hulk a small shot for the podium if the engine survives....

I also think the 'veils' on last year nose, which created an inwash, was helping them with the 2019 car design and understanding how it influences the airflow in an early design stage.

In follow up, I hope Renault are not going to use them as engine "guinea pig", giving them (reused as) new parts and start be a bit more willing to grant them (easier) dyno access with Petrobas. Not let them wait 3 months (like they did with RB) to be able to test some fuel samples...

Renault only have 2 teams to support they should have enough resources to cope with this????

[Ground Effect]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3PTCtZWAAIhwuw.jpg


Even though it's only testing, the times look decent...

There is no doubt that the mclaren was the fourth fastest car or even third if sainz didnt have his contact with max i think he was going to challenge Redbull for the 4 place now maybe it was track performance we have to see what they will do in china

Zak talked about performance depending on track layout etc. I hope they won't struggle when we get to tracks like Monaco, Hungaoring, Singapore, where overtaking is difficult. He said the team could be 4th or 5th on one track and 8th or 9th on another.
Definitely, this car is light-years ahead of the MCL33, but it has weaknesses. Hopefully the Barcelona upgrade will help ensure they're competitive all tracks, irrespective of the layout.

[Juzh]

here is 2019 car compared to last year. This year's car is just on a different level.



note: drs is working for alonso, just the graphic is not showing it.

[radosav]

It is nice step up for McLaren, with both car overtaking red bull cars. I know that red bull suffered with setup this race but never the less

[marmer]

here is 2019 car compared to last year. This year's car is just on a different level.

https://youtu.be/n2lXhqVt6TA

note: drs is working for alonso, just the graphic is not showing it.

Didn't this year's cars get more drs zones so it should be a much faster lap regardless or am I missing something

[Emag]

here is 2019 car compared to last year. This year's car is just on a different level.

https://youtu.be/n2lXhqVt6TA

note: drs is working for alonso, just the graphic is not showing it.

Didn't this year's cars get more drs zones so it should be a much faster lap regardless or am I missing something

One DRS Zone alone can't grant 1.6 seconds in lap improvement. At most it gives 2 tenths, or maybe less because of the part of the track it was implemented. The 2019 car is clearly better on top speed, corner entry and exit. It's overall a much better car.