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Any news on updates for Barcelona?

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NiyolHuayra wrote:
07 May 2019, 11:43
Any news on updates for Barcelona?
We’ll see the whole package not earlier than Thursday, or even Fridays. Tomorrow there will probably be photos of the front wings.

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diffuser wrote:
29 Apr 2019, 18:33
wesley123 wrote:
29 Apr 2019, 11:54
f1rules wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 15:34
an observation, looking around a bit, i found there is one area where mclaren is different from all other cars, mclaren raise their fw mainplane outer sections earlier and more then others, this aids the rear? with more clean air while compromising front df a bit or? i quess the more mainplane closer to the ground, the more front df created?.
Also considering recent stories of a front limited car
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3xfV6YWkAA4Oxp.jpg
compared to rb
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp ... nt-win.jpg
Raising the wing off the ground will reduce pitch sensitivity, with the disadvantage of lower ground effect.

I ind it difficult to say what it's point is since these days the cars are more front-df limited than rear
The closer to the ground the front wing gets, the more difficult is is from the air to get underneath, hence, more DF it generates. One of the reasons for Rake. Clearly shortining the raised section of the wing is area where they can easily gain DF.


https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... 4825-2.jpg
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... 649-29.jpg
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... 4653-8.jpg
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... 616-12.jpg
Im pretty sure mclaren are using the underside of the raised bit of their front wing to somehow channel air to the bargeboards or simply to increase outwash...

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'Tis me, just me. wrote:
07 May 2019, 23:35
diffuser wrote:
29 Apr 2019, 18:33
wesley123 wrote:
29 Apr 2019, 11:54


Raising the wing off the ground will reduce pitch sensitivity, with the disadvantage of lower ground effect.

I ind it difficult to say what it's point is since these days the cars are more front-df limited than rear
The closer to the ground the front wing gets, the more difficult is is from the air to get underneath, hence, more DF it generates. One of the reasons for Rake. Clearly shortining the raised section of the wing is area where they can easily gain DF.


https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... 4825-2.jpg
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... 649-29.jpg
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... 4653-8.jpg
https://www.racefans.net/wp-content/upl ... 616-12.jpg
Im pretty sure mclaren are using the underside of the raised bit of their front wing to somehow channel air to the bargeboards or simply to increase outwash...
They're all doing that to move the turbulence behind the front wheel away from the midwind/bargeboards/sidpods.
What is being suggested here is that perhaps they're not using enough of it to generate DF in the Front.

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BREAKING :-)

Mclaren just announced a new partnership but i actually think they released a pic of floor+sidepod deflectors and new rearwing
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6G3YEPWwAAZl0H.jpg

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f1rules wrote:
09 May 2019, 09:08
BREAKING :-)

Mclaren just announced a new partnership but i actually think they released a pic of floor+sidepod deflectors and new rearwing
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6G3YEPWwAAZl0H.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6G3YEPWwAAZl0H.jpg
Nice spot! New bargeboards as well.

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if so, its a significant update for sure, many changes
bargeboard wings now attach to sidepod deflectors, so many tweaks, this must have been in windtunnel for a LONG time

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f1rules wrote:
09 May 2019, 09:10
if so, its a significant update for sure, many changes
Massive! Sidepod deflector upgrades are rare and usually worth plenty of laptime. Also very W10 with both bargeboards and sidepod deflectors. Let’s see if it’s true.

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f1rules wrote:
09 May 2019, 09:08
BREAKING :-)

Mclaren just announced a new partnership but i actually think they released a pic of floor+sidepod deflectors and new rearwing
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6G3YEPWwAAZl0H.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6G3YEPWwAAZl0H.jpg

yea everything looks new. nicely spotted tho, one could easily think this is the launch photo.

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i send to ivan, he confirmed it took big team effort so for sure its legit :-)

high res version of the picture, unfortunately doesnt show the whole front :-)

https://media-cdn.mclaren.com/media/ima ... rrow_6.jpg

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will be interesting to see if spanish media is correct and there will be tweaks to the frontwing also, but i doubt honestly

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f1rules wrote:
09 May 2019, 10:02
will be interesting to see if spanish media is correct and there will be tweaks to the frontwing also, but i doubt honestly
Well if they are front downforce limited wouldn't a front wing upgrade seem obvious?

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BREAKING NEWS!! Im on a roll today, i know a bit about web and thought there might be more pics, look what i found :D there will be new frontwing also
High res
https://media-cdn.mclaren.com/media/ima ... rrow_5.jpg
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and more mainplane close to the ground for more df it seems, exactly like we speculated, we are not that bad