2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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NiyolHuayra wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:44
Big Tea wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:34
NiyolHuayra wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:17
So guys you can watch every free practice in 1080p for free on https://tv3m.si/f1-v-zivo/ without commentary. So just pure sound and team radios. No ads nothing.
From UK it says "Access to this video content has been restricted" any way around it? (without VPN)
Oh sorry did not know that it is region locked... my bad.
Thanks anyway, would have been nice. Sky have UK locked up like a bank :D
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Big Tea wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:49
NiyolHuayra wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:44
Big Tea wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:34


From UK it says "Access to this video content has been restricted" any way around it? (without VPN)
Oh sorry did not know that it is region locked... my bad.
Thanks anyway, would have been nice. Sky have UK locked up like a bank :D
I thought since it is a really small TV channel they would not have the safety in place :D a bit too optimistic

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NiyolHuayra wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:58
Big Tea wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:49
NiyolHuayra wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 11:44


Oh sorry did not know that it is region locked... my bad.
Thanks anyway, would have been nice. Sky have UK locked up like a bank :D
I thought since it is a really small TV channel they would not have the safety in place :D a bit too optimistic
I appreciate the effort anyway, thanks again
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Jackles-UK wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 23:18
Ground Effect wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 22:40
Darth-Piekus wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 22:00
The Decade 2010 to 2019 is one of the worst F1 Periods. This whole penalty with engines is a joke.
The worst part is that there doesn’t seem to be a solution, or at least a plan for a solution in sight.
There is a simple solution. Ross Brawn said last year (in one of Ted Kravitz’s Notebook in Russia I think?) that teams are spending so much money on engine reliability testing nowadays that it would actually be cheaper for them to just to buy more engines, even though they cost millions of dollars each, and that he was looking to increase this allocation.

I seriously hope he keeps his word as this is easily my least favourite thing about F1. Five engine elements per season would mean more genuine racing across the season rather than grid penalties deciding championship placings.
Unfortunately 5 engine elements would increase costs. That's why they went to 3. The REAL problem is that the PU manufacturers are just too willing to spend the money. Then spin that off on the smaller teams.

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Fabrega tweeting about an engine change for SAI?

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Macklaren wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 13:26
Fabrega tweeting about an engine change for SAI?
Might be a high mileage engine.

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RonDennis wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 13:36
Macklaren wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 13:26
Fabrega tweeting about an engine change for SAI?
Might be a high mileage engine.
He also tweeted before that Sainz was having engine issues and the mechanics had to plug the system that adds engine coolant. I bet it was a high mileage unit but the change wasn't planned, they probably wanted to run the same unit for FP2.

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martinbeiker wrote:
RonDennis wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 13:36
Macklaren wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 13:26
Fabrega tweeting about an engine change for SAI?
Might be a high mileage engine.
He also tweeted before that Sainz was having engine issues and the mechanics had to plug the system that adds engine coolant. I bet it was a high mileage unit but the change wasn't planned, they probably wanted to run the same unit for FP2.
Yes, a “Friday” engine... They were installing his race engine for FP2... A shame, since you don’t want to add unnecessary mileage to a race engine


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diffuser wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 13:00
Jackles-UK wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 23:18
Ground Effect wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 22:40


The worst part is that there doesn’t seem to be a solution, or at least a plan for a solution in sight.
There is a simple solution. Ross Brawn said last year (in one of Ted Kravitz’s Notebook in Russia I think?) that teams are spending so much money on engine reliability testing nowadays that it would actually be cheaper for them to just to buy more engines, even though they cost millions of dollars each, and that he was looking to increase this allocation.

I seriously hope he keeps his word as this is easily my least favourite thing about F1. Five engine elements per season would mean more genuine racing across the season rather than grid penalties deciding championship placings.
Unfortunately 5 engine elements would increase costs. That's why they went to 3. The REAL problem is that the PU manufacturers are just too willing to spend the money. Then spin that off on the smaller teams.
Easy solution would be for the rules to be changed to cap what teams can be charged for a PU supply contract each season. If the manufacturers want to throw money away, then let them, but the costs wouldn't be passed on to the other teams.
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adrianjordan wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 14:42
diffuser wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 13:00
Jackles-UK wrote:
01 Aug 2019, 23:18


There is a simple solution. Ross Brawn said last year (in one of Ted Kravitz’s Notebook in Russia I think?) that teams are spending so much money on engine reliability testing nowadays that it would actually be cheaper for them to just to buy more engines, even though they cost millions of dollars each, and that he was looking to increase this allocation.

I seriously hope he keeps his word as this is easily my least favourite thing about F1. Five engine elements per season would mean more genuine racing across the season rather than grid penalties deciding championship placings.
Unfortunately 5 engine elements would increase costs. That's why they went to 3. The REAL problem is that the PU manufacturers are just too willing to spend the money. Then spin that off on the smaller teams.
Easy solution would be for the rules to be changed to cap what teams can be charged for a PU supply contract each season. If the manufacturers want to throw money away, then let them, but the costs wouldn't be passed on to the other teams.
Actually, I forgot that the four engine manufacturers - Mercedes, Ferrari, Renault and Honda - had agreed to a reduction in cost to supply the 1.6-litre V6 turbo-charged hybrid systems to €12million per season to a customer team.

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The production, distribution and support of the PU is insignificant in comparison to the R&D and dyno time. I would bet that there are more PUs built and supplied for the dynos than there are supplied to the teams.

Merc supply 3 teams. 3 teams * 2 cars * 3 PU per season is 18 PUs. Based on my guess that in FP1-3 and Q the engines run 50% of the time that is 90+90+60+60 300mins/2 = 150 mins + 120mins max for the race =270mins (4 1/2hrs) per weekend. Expected engine life is 7 weekends or 31.5hrs running per PU. Between Round 1 and Round 7 there are 12 weeks.

If one dyno is operating 5 days per week that 12 weeks is 60 working days. During an 8hr day, assuming 50% utility of the dyno, that is 240hrs on one dyno. That would need over 7 engines at the same duty as the race engines.

I suspect Mercedes have more than one dyno.

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There are, Merc was dynoing something like 5 durability test engines per race engine at one point, not including development models.

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On another note what do you think of todays Tests? Did we get slightly trashed or we are gonna see the real speed of each team tomorrow?

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
02 Aug 2019, 19:42
On another note what do you think of todays Tests? Did we get slightly trashed or we are gonna see the real speed of each team tomorrow?
There wasn't any real running that I saw in FP2. in FP1 the lap time were in 1:20s and in FP2 in the 1:30s
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