2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Norris' fastest race lap was a 1:48.321 which is 1.9 sec down on P1. That was on lap 21, two laps after pitting. I guess the car did genuinely have decent pace after all. But even the team doesn't know why. Weird...

Andreas Seidl:

After a difficult Friday and Saturday, we couldn’t have expected the pace we showed today. The performance the team and Lando put together was impressive. After avoiding trouble in Turn One, emerging in P5, we were fully in control of our race. That, of course, is encouraging. It’s now important to study our race and understand where this pace came from today.
https://www.mclaren.com/racing/2019/bel ... rand-prix/

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Well let's see what the analysis says. My bet for Carlo's issue is that it was an installation issue. Didn't work well right from the start.

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diffuser wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 22:34
Well let's see what the analysis says. My bet for Carlo's issue is that it was an installation issue. Didn't work well right from the start.
Maybe. Though, you can definitely hear something break @ 7:50 on his onboard. Perhaps it's the K.

https://streamable.com/ddery

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bad luck for norris. shame he drove very well., i think these failures were a combination of renault incompetency to make a reliable engine and hydraulic issues mclaren and their design constraints mclaren have had for a long time.

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Let's hope we'll see this back very soon.

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You know, engines can blow, but it's always something with Renault. It seems like it will never end. Norris already said that these problems occur way too much, referring to Renault. They already stopped naming Renault. :)

https://streamable.com/q3300

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M840TR wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 22:56
diffuser wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 22:34
Well let's see what the analysis says. My bet for Carlo's issue is that it was an installation issue. Didn't work well right from the start.
Maybe. Though, you can definitely hear something break @ 7:50 on his onboard. Perhaps it's the K.

https://streamable.com/ddery
Nah the K was done from the formation lap. That was the engine misfiring and shutting down after it ran out of electricity

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Jaisonas wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 00:02
M840TR wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 22:56
diffuser wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 22:34
Well let's see what the analysis says. My bet for Carlo's issue is that it was an installation issue. Didn't work well right from the start.
Maybe. Though, you can definitely hear something break @ 7:50 on his onboard. Perhaps it's the K.

https://streamable.com/ddery
Nah the K was done from the formation lap. That was the engine misfiring and shutting down after it ran out of electricity
Good catch. Just noticed the steering wheel blacking-out. Quite similar to Renault in Bahrain.

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Would it have been possible to save it if he went slow at the last lap?

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Renault needs someone like Seidl to lead their engine department. They should also have someone like Andreas to replace Cyril. It has taken way too long for Renault to produce a reliable engine. I'm hoping that we will have Mercedes PU's in the back of our cars in 2021. I'm sure James Key has a good understanding of the Renault PU's architecture, but I think we need something more reliable.

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Jaisonas wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 00:02
M840TR wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 22:56
diffuser wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 22:34
Well let's see what the analysis says. My bet for Carlo's issue is that it was an installation issue. Didn't work well right from the start.
Maybe. Though, you can definitely hear something break @ 7:50 on his onboard. Perhaps it's the K.

https://streamable.com/ddery
Nah the K was done from the formation lap. That was the engine misfiring and shutting down after it ran out of electricity
Right but if you install something incorrectly, it could cause it to break.

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ThePapayaJaguar wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 00:46
Renault needs someone like Seidl to lead their engine department. They should also have someone like Andreas to replace Cyril. It has taken way too long for Renault to produce a reliable engine. I'm hoping that we will have Mercedes PU's in the back of our cars in 2021. I'm sure James Key has a good understanding of the Renault PU's architecture, but I think we need something more reliable.
Let's not call Seidi a hero before he's been with McLaren for a few years...

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ThePapayaJaguar wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 00:46
Renault needs someone like Seidl to lead their engine department. They should also have someone like Andreas to replace Cyril. It has taken way too long for Renault to produce a reliable engine. I'm hoping that we will have Mercedes PU's in the back of our cars in 2021. I'm sure James Key has a good understanding of the Renault PU's architecture, but I think we need something more reliable.
Renault need a Brawn. Hell, Ferrari need a Brawn. The troublesome part is that people like Ross are very difficult to come by..

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Renault needs to increase its budget if they want to improve of engine side.you want a Mercedes engine they are not reliable either the have two engine blown out just this weekend.the only manufacturer with impeccable reliability ironically is Honda

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diffuser wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 01:21
ThePapayaJaguar wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 00:46
Renault needs someone like Seidl to lead their engine department. They should also have someone like Andreas to replace Cyril. It has taken way too long for Renault to produce a reliable engine. I'm hoping that we will have Mercedes PU's in the back of our cars in 2021. I'm sure James Key has a good understanding of the Renault PU's architecture, but I think we need something more reliable.
Let's not call Seidi a hero before he's been with McLaren for a few years...
True, but his presence is already being felt in the team. Next year's car will be under his management obviously, so we shall see how it goes. Additionally, however, Cyril has been known to make big claims. For example, whenever Renault announces a power upgrade, that's all Cyril wants to talk about. He doesn't want to talk about if those gains are sustainable and reliable. On the other hand, Seidl has been continuing the atmosphere of being humble at McLaren. He could have easily said that we have the 4th best car period, but chooses to say that there's always room for improvement.

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Bill wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 05:38
Renault needs to increase its budget if they want to improve of engine side.you want a Mercedes engine they are not reliable either the have two engine blown out just this weekend.the only manufacturer with impeccable reliability ironically is Honda
Mercedes have consistently been reliable; more so than Renault at least. It is ironic that Honda are very reliable. The only two issues I can think of from Honda have been an exhaust sensor issue and power delivery issues.