2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[Darth-Piekus]

Hulkenberg lost his points. Only 4 points for Renault.

Hulkenberg will get 1 point back. Kvyat is almost certanly getting a penalty.

Remains to be seen.

[RonDennis]

Hulkenberg lost his points. Only 4 points for Renault.

Hulkenberg will get 1 point back. Kvyat is almost certanly getting a penalty.

Remains to be seen.

10 sec penalty for Kvyat.

[McL-H]

Did they try hard tyres on friday?

They didn’t try them... Not Sainz or Norris


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How could they not? While knowing this track would be hard on the tyres? These guys are among the smartest in motorsports. It confuses me. It was vital to know how to get the hard tyres to work around here. Same for qualifying on softs yesterday, while it was clear it was the wrong tyre to start the race on. The team has made massive gains and they finally make me smile again this season (also today with Sainz & Norris being competitive on the first stint). But next season we’ll need less strategic mess ups and less horrible pitstops.

[bauc]

A race to forget, I cant believe how uncompetitive the car was on the HARD tire....the car looked very unstable and slow...even without the mistake in the pit with NOR I don't think points were on the table today...

Overall a weekend to forget

[Marc.W]

Pretty woeful race, at least Renault didn't take a lot of points off us.

[Ground Effect]

A Haas-like weekend, to think that after lap one, I was dreaming of a lucky podium

[Jackles-UK]

Apparently track temperatures were the highest they had been all weekend and much higher than on Friday when the team did their race simulations. This appears to have played a part in some tyre related head-scratching throughout the field and McLaren unfortunately we’re the biggest losers.

I’m really beginning to feel for Lando now. Another slice of bad luck totally ruining his race through no fault of his own, it’s starting to get the whiff of Riccardo last season. With the points lost due to mechanical/team issues here (debatable given the pace that Sainz had), Canada, France and particularly Spa along with the incredibly unlucky timing of the safety car in Silverstone one lap after he’d pitted, he’d be almost within touching distance of Carlos’ points tally rather than miles behind.

[_cerber1]

Yes, we should rather switch to COTA, and soon forget Mexico. At first glance at the track, it should come up to McLaren. I am also interested in the resource of power plants, both engines have already passed 5 races, will there be enough of them until the end of the season?

[stevesingo]

It al went wrong with the strategy decisions made after FP3, they had two options;

1, Aggressive-Q on Soft then two stop S-M-M. Overtaking is easier here than most places.

2, Conservative-Q 13&14 on Med (maybe higher with track evolution), knowing those in places 7-10 on Softs would stop early leaving them 9&10 on the road (as it turns out, that would have been 8&9 after VER's puncture). Then one stop for Hards. This, as it turns out, would have been bad as the Hard didn't work for them. They has 0.7 pace on TR on the med and probably more on the Indians and Renaults, so in 20/20, M-M-S would have been the best.

Both options were sub-optimal with car performance how it was, too slow to qualify well on Meds, to fast on Softs to get the option of starting on Meds.

What they did was take the worst part of each option and merge them in to disaster. Aggressive Q and conservative race.

[FittingMechanics]

It's easy to say after the race, but it really looked as if they should have stayed on Mediums in Q2. Also it is very strange that McLaren felt they were borderline on a one stopper with softs, while most of the top 3 felt they had to go for a two stopper even with mediums. Kind of strange that they miscalculated so much.

Pace in the first stint was half decent, TR undercut us but was going for a two stopper. Sainz was trying a one stopper but had no pace on hards. I am not sure what happened here, at first they told him to bring the tire in and not focus on Kvyat, and then after a few laps they told him he can overtake Kvyat if he can. After he "started" doing that (started is a strong word as he couldn't get close to Kvyat) he started to drop off fast. My guess is that he destroyed the hards trying to catch Kvyat.

Very strange race, Haas like as someone said.

[Emag]

Carlos said that he lost all the grip in the rear after pushing to overtake Kvyat. The tires were not "destroyed" per se, but perhaps an increase in tire temperature killed their performance. He had a fight with Verstappen at that period as well and that broke him out of the "rythm" too, which lead to more temperature changes in the tires. After that he had no pace whatsoever, he kept sliding in every corner (this is what Carlos reported anyway). When he switched to mediums the pace was better, but still not what you would expect from McLaren after Friday and Saturday.

My only guess is that the car didn't react well to the track and ambient temperature changes in Mexcio. It was too sensitive having a very narrow sweet spot. I hope they thoroughly research the data to find any possible underlying causes for this strange car behavior. The car has been perfect with the tires this season, especially on the races. That's one of the reasons for their great performance and edge over the rest of the midfield rivals. To suddenly lose that at a race towards the end of the season, is definitely not good and very random. It's important for them to know exactly what happened so they can rectify it for next year.

[diffuser]

Carlos said that he lost all the grip in the rear after pushing to overtake Kvyat. The tires were not "destroyed" per se, but perhaps an increase in tire temperature killed their performance. He had a fight with Verstappen at that period as well and that broke him out of the "rythm" too, which lead to more temperature changes in the tires. After that he had no pace whatsoever, he kept sliding in every corner (this is what Carlos reported anyway). When he switched to mediums the pace was better, but still not what you would expect from McLaren after Friday and Saturday.

My only guess is that the car didn't react well to the track and ambient temperature changes in Mexcio. It was too sensitive having a very narrow sweet spot. I hope they thoroughly research the data to find any possible underlying causes for this strange car behavior. The car has been perfect with the tires this season, especially on the races. That's one of the reasons for their great performance and edge over the rest of the midfield rivals. To suddenly lose that at a race towards the end of the season, is definitely not good and very random. It's important for them to know exactly what happened so they can rectify it for next year.

More likely a drop off in temp instead of over temp. The hard have a higher operating temp.

[Vasconia]

What a shame because the start was spectacular. This battle with Lewis was nice. Carlos is starting to believe he can battle with them, at least in the first lap. It´s a small detail but it shows how the driver and team are growing.

[bauc]

What a shame because the start was spectacular. This battle with Lewis was nice. Carlos is starting to believe he can battle with them, at least in the first lap. It´s a small detail but it shows how the driver and team are growing.

As long as the team finds out the reason why they were so bad on the HARD tire I'm fine with the result, it was just a bad weekend, it happens from time to time

And yes, Carlos starts to believe he can fight, and I love it

[SmallSoldier]

I think that the team was probably preparing themselves for not only lower temperatures, but also for the potential of rain... They may have overheated the hard tires and therefore the lack of pace.

Good thing that Cota is just a few days away, a chance for the team to finish the season on a high.


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