McLaren MCL35

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Wasnt POU pictured on the filming day?

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The shot shows how complicated the leading edge of the floors/bargeboards are on these cars, unreal really! [right click -> view image for bigger]

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And McLaren really do have a lovely undercut.

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Bernie's Mistress wrote:
18 Feb 2020, 18:26
I do wonder whether the slow speed corner weakness is less attributable to the lack of POU suspension but comes back to the positioning of the side pods relative to the front axle. Slow speed corners require greater steering angle which in turn makes the side pod positioning more critical.
I think that's the main reason. Their issues with the front end seemed to appear through prolonged corners (think back to Spain, China), which suggests front tyre wake affecting performance of the barge-boards with heavy steering. They made a huge step forward from the MCL33, but I remember reading recent quotes that it's still a key area that needs improved upon.

McLaren used POU for the majority of last season though (I think it was France they introduced it?), and it looks present on some of the filming day shots we've seen so far.

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Xero wrote:
18 Feb 2020, 21:19
Bernie's Mistress wrote:
18 Feb 2020, 18:26
I do wonder whether the slow speed corner weakness is less attributable to the lack of POU suspension but comes back to the positioning of the side pods relative to the front axle. Slow speed corners require greater steering angle which in turn makes the side pod positioning more critical.
I think that's the main reason. Their issues with the front end seemed to appear through prolonged corners (think back to Spain, China), which suggests front tyre wake affecting performance of the barge-boards with heavy steering. They made a huge step forward from the MCL33, but I remember reading recent quotes that it's still a key area that needs improved upon.

McLaren used POU for the majority of last season though (I think it was France they introduced it?), and it looks present on some of the filming day shots we've seen so far.
I thought Macca trialed the extreme POU last year but didn’t race it, but I am often wrong!

Tyre wake at yaw is always a problem, even more so with the new front wings and the bargeboards are used/designed to control this, but obviously they can’t eliminate it altogether. Running slimmer Sidepods will also help as the main airstream is brought more inboard so further away from the wake. Whether or not this is emphasised more or less at low speed I wouldn’t know but McLaren obviously lacked here slightly compared to big 3 and hopefully have made some big gains, but then looking at some of the other cars so have they too

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the EDGE wrote:
18 Feb 2020, 21:29
Xero wrote:
18 Feb 2020, 21:19
Bernie's Mistress wrote:
18 Feb 2020, 18:26
I do wonder whether the slow speed corner weakness is less attributable to the lack of POU suspension but comes back to the positioning of the side pods relative to the front axle. Slow speed corners require greater steering angle which in turn makes the side pod positioning more critical.
I think that's the main reason. Their issues with the front end seemed to appear through prolonged corners (think back to Spain, China), which suggests front tyre wake affecting performance of the barge-boards with heavy steering. They made a huge step forward from the MCL33, but I remember reading recent quotes that it's still a key area that needs improved upon.

McLaren used POU for the majority of last season though (I think it was France they introduced it?), and it looks present on some of the filming day shots we've seen so far.
I thought Macca trialed the extreme POU last year but didn’t race it, but I am often wrong!

Tyre wake at yaw is always a problem, even more so with the new front wings and the bargeboards are used/designed to control this, but obviously they can’t eliminate it altogether. Running slimmer Sidepods will also help as the main airstream is brought more inboard so further away from the wake. Whether or not this is emphasised more or less at low speed I wouldn’t know but McLaren obviously lacked here slightly compared to big 3 and hopefully have made some big gains, but then looking at some of the other cars so have they too
I think you’re right, I’m not sure it was raced, but definitely trialed
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It was tested in France, but I don't think it was raced.

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It was raced.

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It was definitely raced, only tested in France though, then raced from Austria onwards. I remember it disappeared for one weekend though, Spa possibly?

Edit: At Spa Sainz raced it, but Norris didn't.

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Emag wrote:
18 Feb 2020, 22:16
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It was tested in France, but I don't think it was raced.

For a second that looked like a camera on the suspension arm ....

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T wings appear

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Is it a beam wing? Is it a monkey seat? No, it's a double T-wing! ;)

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Ok please no Live timings in the Car Thread. Post has been moved to the Team Thread.
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