2020 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 12-15

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Re: 2020 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 12-15

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Ringleheim wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 19:30
TAG wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 19:01
Mercedes have been the most reliable team since the 2014 PU regulation change, not sure how someone thinks that will all of the sudden change. We'll know Saturday who is where and we'll know Sunday whether a PU can go a race distance. Melbourne is a power circuit, don't think anyone will be able to hide flaws there.
Keep in mind these engines are being developed and things change. Clearly, Mercedes had a reliability issue in testing with current spec engines. Maybe they were trying something unusual looking to deliberately see if it would fail; I doubt that.

I think their reliability will be a question mark through the early part of the season, assuming we have a season.
My assumption is that what we saw in testing was a 0.X version of the 2020 PU that was produced early to mid winter. What we will see in Melbourne will be Version 1.0 that has fixes and updates based on all the data gathered from the test bench and actual running of the 0.X version.
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Last weather forecast

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Rain during qualifying would be most welcome! As long as it's not so much rain they have to cancel it!

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Ringleheim wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 19:30
TAG wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 19:01
Mercedes have been the most reliable team since the 2014 PU regulation change, not sure how someone thinks that will all of the sudden change. We'll know Saturday who is where and we'll know Sunday whether a PU can go a race distance. Melbourne is a power circuit, don't think anyone will be able to hide flaws there.
Keep in mind these engines are being developed and things change. Clearly, Mercedes had a reliability issue in testing with current spec engines. Maybe they were trying something unusual looking to deliberately see if it would fail; I doubt that.

I think their reliability will be a question mark through the early part of the season, assuming we have a season.
Hakkinen goes to win race and guess what ? that mercedes engine blows.
Raikkonen goes to win race and guess what. mercedes engine blows.
I can not believe how such an engine manufacturer became so reliable.
Come on guys. Things can change, human makes mistakes. As you saw they have issues. They can solve it but other option is not that small. Perhaps they have to go back to old mgu-h.We will see.

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bauc wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 19:39
Last weather forecast

https://scontent-sof1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5E95F812
The reports I’m seeing is possible rain overnight on Friday. Both Friday & Saturday daytimes look dry

I do hope so, I’d love a wet race but if it rains for practice they just won’t run & I’ll be dammed if I’m staying up all night to watch an empty track

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Wow, quite cool temps for the wkn'd!
It will be interesting to see which team can better put heat on to tires and whether Merc's new DAS system will be employed for this issue.

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GTO99 wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 20:36
Wow, quite cool temps for the wkn'd!
It will be interesting to see which team can better put heat on to tires and whether Merc's new DAS system will be employed for this issue.
I've read that redbull will protest if they use the system.

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etusch wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 20:06
Ringleheim wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 19:30
TAG wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 19:01
Mercedes have been the most reliable team since the 2014 PU regulation change, not sure how someone thinks that will all of the sudden change. We'll know Saturday who is where and we'll know Sunday whether a PU can go a race distance. Melbourne is a power circuit, don't think anyone will be able to hide flaws there.
Keep in mind these engines are being developed and things change. Clearly, Mercedes had a reliability issue in testing with current spec engines. Maybe they were trying something unusual looking to deliberately see if it would fail; I doubt that.

I think their reliability will be a question mark through the early part of the season, assuming we have a season.
Hakkinen goes to win race and guess what ? that mercedes engine blows.
Raikkonen goes to win race and guess what. mercedes engine blows.
I can not believe how such an engine manufacturer became so reliable.
Come on guys. Things can change, human makes mistakes. As you saw they have issues. They can solve it but other option is not that small. Perhaps they have to go back to old mgu-h.We will see.
wait, what decade are we in? :wtf:
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The year things turn around

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etusch wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 20:48
GTO99 wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 20:36
Wow, quite cool temps for the wkn'd!
It will be interesting to see which team can better put heat on to tires and whether Merc's new DAS system will be employed for this issue.
I've read that redbull will protest if they use the system.
I’ve read there maybe a challenge Merck’s brake ducts but not DAS. I think all teams have accepted there is no logical argument against it

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GTO99 wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 20:36
Wow, quite cool temps for the wkn'd!
It will be interesting to see which team can better put heat on to tires and whether Merc's new DAS system will be employed for this issue.
So far we have only seen the system used to go from toe-out to toe-straight, not sure how that could be used to heat the front tyres, more likely used to cool them and preserve life whilst increasing straight line speed

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the EDGE wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 21:14
etusch wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 20:48
GTO99 wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 20:36
Wow, quite cool temps for the wkn'd!
It will be interesting to see which team can better put heat on to tires and whether Merc's new DAS system will be employed for this issue.
I've read that redbull will protest if they use the system.
I’ve read there maybe a challenge Merc’s brake ducts but not DAS. I think all teams have accepted there is no logical argument against it

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the EDGE wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 20:30
bauc wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 19:39
Last weather forecast

https://scontent-sof1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5E95F812
The reports I’m seeing is possible rain overnight on Friday. Both Friday & Saturday daytimes look dry

I do hope so, I’d love a wet race but if it rains for practice they just won’t run & I’ll be dammed if I’m staying up all night to watch an empty track
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izzy wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 11:25
LM10 wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 01:36
I don't know how they came to that conclusion, but surely not because of some chicane cutting. In their first week's analysis they claimed Ferrari to be fastest in slow speed sections as well. It's not based on sector times, though. Otherwise Alfa Romero should have been up there as Kimi had the fastest S3 time by cutting the chicane.
Yes good point. It must be from gps, but with teams doing test session programmes the data simply don't mean anything, with whatever laps they chose
Regarding chicane cutting: An interesting thing is that AMuS put the 26.0 S3 time from Vettel in their test analysis, claiming that it was the second fastest S3 time of testing with only Bottas being faster with a 25.9. This means that AMuS thinks that it actually was a proper sector and no chicane cutting.

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LM10 wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 22:37
Regarding chicane cutting: An interesting thing is that AMuS put the 26.0 S3 time from Vettel in their test analysis, claiming that it was the second fastest S3 time of testing with only Bottas being faster with a 25.9. This means that AMuS thinks that it actually was a proper sector and no chicane cutting.
yes that caught me! i read their article that added fastest sectors, i thought hey they're right there i know who's gonna be happy :lol: . But let's see, they can catch up fast and i still think the driving is going to be the biggest factor