[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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It's also a matter of ego. We have to beat those copycats to prove that copying a last years car doesn't bring you success than making something of your own.

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Quickshifter

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Doesn't sound too bad apart from the reliability scare he had in FP2.

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So McLaren think they’re fighting Renault, Ferrari and one Racing Point this weekend, Checo appears to be out of reach

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They said last week that both RPs were out of range, so hope its just gamesmanship. Also hoping RBR is within reach if that car is super tricky to drive

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
10 Jul 2020, 16:42
... A1 Ring ...
There's no such thing anymore. Also A1 is just a telecommunications company and previously sponsored the track.
If it's about not wanting to call it Red Bull Ring (because they are "evil" or whatever) at least call it Spielberg. That's where the track is located.

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Macklaren wrote:They said last week that both RPs were out of range, so hope its just gamesmanship. Also hoping RBR is within reach if that car is super tricky to drive
I don’t think that is gamesmanship... RP showed great pace in testing and even last weekend, they were also up there in terms of times... They probably didn’t had a great qualifying while we had a very good one.

The positive from the sessions today is that the team is still showing good pace and is mixing it up with RP, Ferrari and Renault and even when one lap pace may be a bit behind RP, with such small gaps the drivers and strategy can make a difference on Sunday.


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SmallSoldier wrote:
10 Jul 2020, 19:46
Macklaren wrote:They said last week that both RPs were out of range, so hope its just gamesmanship. Also hoping RBR is within reach if that car is super tricky to drive
I don’t think that is gamesmanship... RP showed great pace in testing and even last weekend, they were also up there in terms of times... They probably didn’t had a great qualifying while we had a very good one.

The positive from the sessions today is that the team is still showing good pace and is mixing it up with RP, Ferrari and Renault and even when one lap pace may be a bit behind RP, with such small gaps the drivers and strategy can make a difference on Sunday.


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Very wise I think. If it falls into their lap, I'm sure they will take it though.
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Big Tea wrote:
SmallSoldier wrote:
10 Jul 2020, 19:46
Macklaren wrote:They said last week that both RPs were out of range, so hope its just gamesmanship. Also hoping RBR is within reach if that car is super tricky to drive
I don’t think that is gamesmanship... RP showed great pace in testing and even last weekend, they were also up there in terms of times... They probably didn’t had a great qualifying while we had a very good one.

The positive from the sessions today is that the team is still showing good pace and is mixing it up with RP, Ferrari and Renault and even when one lap pace may be a bit behind RP, with such small gaps the drivers and strategy can make a difference on Sunday.


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If you pick your fights you are more likely to win them, and don't get distracted from the real scrap
Very wise I think. If it falls into their lap, I'm sure they will take it though.
Exactly... Managing expectations is also important, since if the run too high a bad weekend could have a long lasting negative effect in the team.

Contrary to what was said a few posts before in regards to “ego” and beating a copy cat team, their focus isn’t on what RP is doing, their focus is on themselves and getting as much as they can out of the car... Things should fall into place after that.

The key this season is to develop the car as much and as fast as possible since there won’t be a chance to do so in between seasons, the rate of development will not only have an effect on this season, but also the next one


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One interesting tidbit that I noticed.

Norris came out of the box in FP1 about 3 or so minutes before the end, and was on Medium tires. My theory was that he was simulating a "qualy run" on mediums, and then would do a long stint in FP2 simulating first stint starting on qualy tire. The reason why the yellow was unfortunate is that it came out just as he was on his flying lap, so I understand the pressure he felt wanting to get on with the run.

Didn't post about it earlier as I wasn't sure, but later on Norris said he was on a "hot lap" and others were letting him through so I guess my theory may be right. This means that McLaren was at least evaluating trying to qualify on Mediums.

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Maybe a wet qualifying would be better for McLaren? Both drivers are quite strong in the wet, Carlos particularly in wet-dry conditions. Also, I don’t think Checo is that great in the wet, Stroll actually seems more comfortable.
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Norris complaining about chest pain when braking and aparently it bothers him quite alot, since he was forced to drive less in FP sessions. This might be a concern.

And he was out of breath after the first race as well.
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FittingMechanics wrote:One interesting tidbit that I noticed.

Norris came out of the box in FP1 about 3 or so minutes before the end, and was on Medium tires. My theory was that he was simulating a "qualy run" on mediums, and then would do a long stint in FP2 simulating first stint starting on qualy tire. The reason why the yellow was unfortunate is that it came out just as he was on his flying lap, so I understand the pressure he felt wanting to get on with the run.

Didn't post about it earlier as I wasn't sure, but later on Norris said he was on a "hot lap" and others were letting him through so I guess my theory may be right. This means that McLaren was at least evaluating trying to qualify on Mediums.
That would make a lot of sense... My only question would be in regards to practice of a qualifying run on Mediums, knowing that Qualy most probably will be wet (if there is one)... Are they thinking that we could have Qualy on Sunday morning?

In regards to Norris’ penalty, he did slowed down for the yellow flags, but given that he was on a hot lap and the other cars on out laps and therefore considerably slower, slowing down for yellows wasn’t enough not to pass them after the turn... Very unlucky


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Ground Effect wrote:Maybe a wet qualifying would be better for McLaren? Both drivers are quite strong in the wet, Carlos particularly in wet-dry conditions. Also, I don’t think Checo is that great in the wet, Stroll actually seems more comfortable.
Norris showed great wet driving skills while on F2 at Paul Ricard in 2018, but wasn’t as strong in Hockenheim last year


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proteus wrote:
10 Jul 2020, 20:55
Norris complaining about chest pain when braking and aparently it bothers him quite alot, since he was forced to drive less in FP sessions. This might be a concern.

And he was out of breath after the first race as well.
I read it was upper backpains, not chest. He's certainly not 100% for some reason and has to limit his time in the car. I wonder if it's the compression at turn 10?