I think there's a bit of Proportionality Bias there.Unf wrote: ↑20 Jul 2020, 17:54It's never work like that in 100%. If you need particualr example look at RBR - do you think Ric had the same equipment as Max and that's why he left?
Every teams always pick one of the guy and focus on him. Even if it is like Mercedes is focused on Ham on 100% and on Bottas on 99,8% - there is always a more important car and a bit less important car.
The same happened last year for Kubica and Russell. Do you really believe that it is possible to be beaten on every Q's by margin like 1s?
Hamilton has the same car and is able to almost overlap Bottas just cause Bottas failed on start?
Max is 60s ahead of Albon during the race in the same car?
Alonso was eating Vandoorne in the same car whole season?
etc.
Bottas manager is Mika. Blame Mika!
65 Races gone since Bottas joined Mercedes. You need another race to judge if he is treated as No.2 or not?Unf wrote: ↑21 Jul 2020, 19:24I have better idea guys, let's just wait for few more races and then we will see clearly how Bottas and Lewis are treated, I think it will be very very easy to see especially on Silverstone... If there will be literally no tries to put Bottas behind Hamilton by team on both Silverstone races I will say sorry to all of you. British celebrity and multi WC driver on British track vs. Bottas - I'm loving it.
I don't - I knew it when he was announced. You all still need it.
At least I don't need it. I know he is No. 2, on merit, not because Team deliberately treats him as a No.2.
Then what are you trying to accomplish here?
https://www.skysports.com/amp/f1/news/1 ... appointingThis is disappointing but unfortunately a reality that some of the older generation who still have a voice today cannot get out of their own way and acknowledge there is a problem.
Again, this is plain ignorance but that will not stop me from continuing to push for change. It is never too late to learn and I hope that this man who I've always had respect for can take the time to educate himself.
Hmm... for what reason forum has been made? Maybe...for... discussing?!dans79 wrote: Then what are you trying to accomplish here?
dans79 wrote: You aren't going to convince anyone here the Bottas has been a designated #2 since 2017.
Unf wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 20:16One thing is clear for Bottas now - he can forget about driver championship now. He's a decent driver but... ha has no "x-factor" if you know what I mean.
Only fresh bloods like leclerc, russel or norris could bite Ham in the same car. But Mercedes will never allow to have that combination. THam vs. Ros drama was enough for them, simply.
For you they don't make any sense, for some else maybe they do.
Where do you see inconsistent? I have never said that Bottas is faster or at least equal to Hamilton's pace. Bottas is slower with no doubt. But like I siad a year ago and I still pointing - even if somehow Bottas would be ahead - Mercedes will do everything to stop him and let Lewis to beat him, just beacuse Hamilton is totally preffered by the team.dans79 wrote: But just last year, you claimed this.Unf wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 20:16One thing is clear for Bottas now - he can forget about driver championship now. He's a decent driver but... ha has no "x-factor" if you know what I mean.
Only fresh bloods like leclerc, russel or norris could bite Ham in the same car. But Mercedes will never allow to have that combination. THam vs. Ros drama was enough for them, simply.It's kind of hard to have a discussion when someone's points of discussion are wildly inconsistent.
If there was a shred of truth to this claim, then Bottas should schedule a psych evaluation as soon as possible for wanting to re-sign another contract with a team that is looking to sabotage his career.Unf wrote: ↑21 Jul 2020, 21:39For you they don't make any sense, for some else maybe they do.
Where do you see inconsistent? I have never said that Bottas is faster or at least equal to Hamilton's pace. Bottas is slower with no doubt. But like I siad a year ago and I still pointing - even if somehow Bottas would be ahead - Mercedes will do everything to stop him and let Lewis to beat him, just beacuse Hamilton is totally preffered by the team.dans79 wrote: But just last year, you claimed this.Unf wrote: ↑14 Jul 2019, 20:16One thing is clear for Bottas now - he can forget about driver championship now. He's a decent driver but... ha has no "x-factor" if you know what I mean.
Only fresh bloods like leclerc, russel or norris could bite Ham in the same car. But Mercedes will never allow to have that combination. THam vs. Ros drama was enough for them, simply.It's kind of hard to have a discussion when someone's points of discussion are wildly inconsistent.