Ferrari SF1000

[Sevach]

When you look at what was going on i can totally understand why Ferrari went "efficiency/low drag" over "downforce".

In 2017 they had a car that was very good at slow tracks, not so good at fast flowing ones and kind of a brick on the straights.
For 2018 they improved straight line and became very good at fast tracks (some sacrifice to slow speed cornering).
In late 2018 they tried to brute force add downforce and the car ended up slower than the "efficient" older version.

So i can see why they would double down on efficiency, but with the 2019 tires coming on it was the wrong timing to do that.

Keep in mind Ferrari often seem to struggle when it comes to "downforce by whatever means necessary", as i said they butchered the 2018 car and this SF1000 isn't exactly great(their most successful example is the SF90 where they added a lot of downforce midseason and the car improved).
Sure, the engine is the big problem right now, but this car seems to have big drag for no great gains in cornering or balance (it's usually good on tires, but that isn't as important as it was years ago).

The team testing methods should be brought into question and also their overconfidence after 2019 testing.

[zibby43]

Some nice comparison shots:





via lukalukaluka

[MtthsMlw]

Cool view of the cockpit with the seat removed.

via @NicolasF1i

[RZS10]

and a 'naked' halo ... which is quite rare to see

[godlameroso]

Ferrari needs nose surgery.

[Sevach]

Ferrari needs nose surgery.

Heart(engine) first.

[Xwang]

Since the beginning of the year it is reported that there is an aerodynamic blockage with this car, but it seems that nothing has been made to solve or at least lessen it. Do you have any idea about what creates this aerodynamic blockage and why they are not trying to solve it with newer spec of aerodynamic components?

[siskue2005]

Ferrari needs nose surgery.

Yes their nose is so 2016
Every top team have moved on the slimmer nose, Mercedes did that since 2017

[godlameroso]

Ferrari needs nose surgery.

Heart(engine) first.

The engine will be much better next year, the chassis, well it is better than last year but it added a lot of drag.

[aleks_ader]

What is point of nose surgery if ur design systems dont work efficiently? Now is just huge data gathering season or two. Changes in rakes, suspensions u name it. They need deepen the knowledge database on whole car dynamic vs aero effects. Rinse and repeat.

All departments need revision and maybe some recalibration in processes.I feel they lack the most on driver in loop design methodology. Its evident that they many times fall on their noses with setup.

Normally they lose hinsigth what is important in future developments. Thats is also maybe effect of lack of confidence in methods i mentioned all above.

They really nailed 2017 regs. So they have talent clearly. This car is hardcore pure downforce evolution. Those steps were justified for last season before HUGE 2021 rule changes. But they shot himself into foot to be too confident about grey area on PU site. Also then here comes human malware and issue becomes even worse.

So yeah would be good too see many developments steps on SF1000. But they spent all CFD hours just on normal track to track updates. So they reverted all development toward drag cutting. That also means any potential downforce heavy updates were tossed trough window.

Plus I m sure they could "hide 2021" development infront FIA and use/save (if u sort out issues before) CFD hours there.

[Mamba]

Toro Rosso went for the Merc nose in 2017 too and went back to the Ferrari style in 2018. I'm pretty sure that a thin nose was already in Ferrari windtunnels or CFD at the minimium years ago. If there was a clear benefit we would see it on the car. They clearly gain something they want to keep by running the current style nose.

[nemanja]

Since the beginning of the year it is reported that there is an aerodynamic blockage with this car, but it seems that nothing has been made to solve or at least lessen it. Do you have any idea about what creates this aerodynamic blockage and why they are not trying to solve it with newer spec of aerodynamic components?

Internal flow is the problem. Much more difficult to solve. They have to rearrange many components and change the concept of radiators. Probably different air intake too.

[wowgr8]

Since the beginning of the year it is reported that there is an aerodynamic blockage with this car, but it seems that nothing has been made to solve or at least lessen it. Do you have any idea about what creates this aerodynamic blockage and why they are not trying to solve it with newer spec of aerodynamic components?

Apparently that was something put out by Ferrari themselves (via the media) as an excuse and a supposed reason why the car is slow on the straights rather than the engine, also not true apparently

On the contrary though, they always run the hot air outlets at the back of the car really really open. Does anyone have a picture of the SF90 from the rear in Bahrain spec? The SF1000 outlets are huge, like almost 4x Mercedes size

[LM10]

Since the beginning of the year it is reported that there is an aerodynamic blockage with this car, but it seems that nothing has been made to solve or at least lessen it. Do you have any idea about what creates this aerodynamic blockage and why they are not trying to solve it with newer spec of aerodynamic components?

Apparently that was something put out by Ferrari themselves (via the media) as an excuse and a supposed reason why the car is slow on the straights rather than the engine, also not true apparently

On the contrary though, they always run the hot air outlets at the back of the car really really open. Does anyone have a picture of the SF90 from the rear in Bahrain spec? The SF1000 outlets are huge, like almost 4x Mercedes size

Ferrari has never told that their problem was drag rather than engine. Don't make up things. They told that they lost engine power and were left with huge amount of drag. They were probably going to be fine with the monstrous PU they built the car around. Put the Ferrari PU into the Mercedes and it will appear very draggy as well.

As for the outlets, if you can show me a side by side of both cars and show me the 4x larger outlets on the SF1000 I'll do whatever you wish.

[jumpingfish]

Since the beginning of the year it is reported that there is an aerodynamic blockage with this car, but it seems that nothing has been made to solve or at least lessen it. Do you have any idea about what creates this aerodynamic blockage and why they are not trying to solve it with newer spec of aerodynamic components?

Apparently that was something put out by Ferrari themselves (via the media) as an excuse and a supposed reason why the car is slow on the straights rather than the engine, also not true apparently

On the contrary though, they always run the hot air outlets at the back of the car really really open. Does anyone have a picture of the SF90 from the rear in Bahrain spec? The SF1000 outlets are huge, like almost 4x Mercedes size

SF90



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