On the back of their partnership announcement with Ineos, Mercedes AMG F1 have today revealed the new car livery for the 2020 Formula One season. The new partnership sees the new silver arrows featuring red highlights for the first time since Mercedes returned to F1 in 2012.
Russel to Red Bull.
Wishful thinking:)
Marko and Co presenting that hot juicy steak in front of Russell's hungry nose might just force Toto to throw Bottas under the bus. Or, let's put it differently, Bottas himself laid down on the train tracks and it's up to Toto to grab him by the hand and lead him to safety.
The juicy steak of 'come now and be the number two driver in the second best team and and possibly ruin ever getting that Merc drive' vs 'Wait one year and be on equal footing at the best team for as long as you want?'. That's not such a juicy steak really.Manoah2u wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 19:34Marko and Co presenting that hot juicy steak in front of Russell's hungry nose might just force Toto to throw Bottas under the bus. Or, let's put it differently, Bottas himself laid down on the train tracks and it's up to Toto to grab him by the hand and lead him to safety.
Genuine talented drivers don't need mentors and nether want to have one. Their instincts make them do the good stuff on various occasions. Lauda, Senna, Schumacher, Alonso, Hamilton and Max, didn't have one. In MotoGP when Honda tried to position Stoner in a similar position, Marquez didn't like it and shoved him away. George is talented and a very intelligent guy (based on his work in Williams and in eSeries). One thing that was commented about him by Claire last year was that, he has immense clarity of his work and doesn't hesitate in demanding from engineers what he wants. Those who build themselves without a mentor, would have stuff to handle difficult situations by themselves. All of the above drivers have proved it. So should George if he is one. I personally hate mentors as I have seen, they mostly try to stuff their way of doing it which is not the right thing.Zynerji wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 14:09I just hope that when George does get to Mercedes, Lewis goes into it with a mentor mentality (SCH-MAS06) instead of a master/apprentice mentality (ALO-HAM07).
Passing the torch after stamping 8 WDC into the history books would just seal the GOAT conversation forever.
Russell has already stated Hamilton has helped him with the tires so I don’t think he would hesitate to ask for advice again.....Moore77 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 20:11Genuine talented drivers don't need mentors and nether want to have one. Their instincts make them do the good stuff on various occasions. Lauda, Senna, Schumacher, Alonso, Hamilton and Max, didn't have one. In MotoGP when Honda tried to position Stoner in a similar position, Marquez didn't like it and shoved him away. George is talented and a very intelligent guy (based on his work in Williams and in eSeries). One thing that was commented about him by Claire last year was that, he has immense clarity of his work and doesn't hesitate in demanding from engineers what he wants. Those who build themselves without a mentor, would have stuff to handle difficult situations by themselves. All of the above drivers have proved it. So should George if he is one. I personally hate mentors as I have seen, they mostly try to stuff their way of doing it which is not the right thing.Zynerji wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 14:09I just hope that when George does get to Mercedes, Lewis goes into it with a mentor mentality (SCH-MAS06) instead of a master/apprentice mentality (ALO-HAM07).
Passing the torch after stamping 8 WDC into the history books would just seal the GOAT conversation forever.
I don't think RBR's 2nd seat is really something worthwile, but another concideration might be that the lure of short-term improvement might start selling.El Scorchio wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 20:00The juicy steak of 'come now and be the number two driver in the second best team and and possibly ruin ever getting that Merc drive' vs 'Wait one year and be on equal footing at the best team for as long as you want?'. That's not such a juicy steak really.Manoah2u wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 19:34Marko and Co presenting that hot juicy steak in front of Russell's hungry nose might just force Toto to throw Bottas under the bus. Or, let's put it differently, Bottas himself laid down on the train tracks and it's up to Toto to grab him by the hand and lead him to safety.
Russell is in no place anyway to be making demands of Mercedes. Besides which, if as so many people say any fool could drive the Merc to the title, then why do they even need him? Why not just hire Grosjean?
I think you've got that the wrong way round. Red Bull want Max to be their star driver. Mercedes lets both drivers win.
I agree. Red Bull won’t even let Sergio in the car for fear of disrupting Max.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 20:57I think you've got that the wrong way round. Red Bull want Max to be their star driver. Mercedes lets both drivers win.
I think George at Red Bull would cause issues for the team. It'd be McLaren 2007 or Mercedes 2016 with in-fighting and bad relationships forming.
Your first sentence disqualified the rest of your statement. Take it from someone that develops executive level talent, every single day.Moore77 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 20:11Genuine talented drivers don't need mentors and nether want to have one. Their instincts make them do the good stuff on various occasions. Lauda, Senna, Schumacher, Alonso, Hamilton and Max, didn't have one. In MotoGP when Honda tried to position Stoner in a similar position, Marquez didn't like it and shoved him away. George is talented and a very intelligent guy (based on his work in Williams and in eSeries). One thing that was commented about him by Claire last year was that, he has immense clarity of his work and doesn't hesitate in demanding from engineers what he wants. Those who build themselves without a mentor, would have stuff to handle difficult situations by themselves. All of the above drivers have proved it. So should George if he is one. I personally hate mentors as I have seen, they mostly try to stuff their way of doing it which is not the right thing.Zynerji wrote: ↑07 Dec 2020, 14:09I just hope that when George does get to Mercedes, Lewis goes into it with a mentor mentality (SCH-MAS06) instead of a master/apprentice mentality (ALO-HAM07).
Passing the torch after stamping 8 WDC into the history books would just seal the GOAT conversation forever.
