Mercedes W12

[edgelo]

They have a more conventional floor now, without all that bumps and curvatures, i think.

Maybe a less extreme bur more consistent solution?

How did you notice?

I figured that from TV images, but i’ve looking for a better view and i think i was wrong. It seems the same floor. Sorry

[ryaan2904]

Bottas' run on softs was yukky. It didn't look Mercy on board! Something quite icky going on as it doesn't look good at all.

Looked heavy on fuel. Like full tanks level

It just doesnt make sense to go full tank in the last 10 or so minutes of the session. And while mercedes like sandbagging, they hate inefficiency even more.

[NoDivergence]

Bottas' run on softs was yukky. It didn't look Mercy on board! Something quite icky going on as it doesn't look good at all.

Looked heavy on fuel. Like full tanks level

It just doesnt make sense to go full tank in the last 10 or so minutes of the session. And while mercedes like sandbagging, they hate inefficiency even more.

It makes perfect sense. They want to stress the tire but not give too much away, that goes for engine mode as well. This isn't FP3 right before Quali. The engineers with the sim know how much laptime there is with fuel and engine mode and can correlate that. Plus, Mercedes has never run low fuel in testing for the past 7 years.

Merc even delayed their shakedown to keep rivals from seeing the floor. There is no way they show all the cards in a preseason test

[F1Krof]

Looked heavy on fuel. Like full tanks level

It just doesnt make sense to go full tank in the last 10 or so minutes of the session. And while mercedes like sandbagging, they hate inefficiency even more.

It makes perfect sense. They want to stress the tire but not give too much away, that goes for engine mode as well. This isn't FP3 right before Quali. The engineers with the sim know how much laptime there is with fuel and engine mode and can correlate that. Plus, Mercedes has never run low fuel in testing for the past 7 years.

Merc even delayed their shakedown to keep rivals from seeing the floor. There is no way they show all the cards in a preseason test

Apparently they switched to a simple floor towards the end (so I heard). After the switch, Bottas seemed to hook the lap times.

[OO7]

It just doesnt make sense to go full tank in the last 10 or so minutes of the session. And while mercedes like sandbagging, they hate inefficiency even more.

It makes perfect sense. They want to stress the tire but not give too much away, that goes for engine mode as well. This isn't FP3 right before Quali. The engineers with the sim know how much laptime there is with fuel and engine mode and can correlate that. Plus, Mercedes has never run low fuel in testing for the past 7 years.

Merc even delayed their shakedown to keep rivals from seeing the floor. There is no way they show all the cards in a preseason test

Apparently they switched to a simple floor towards the end (so I heard). After the switch, Bottas seemed to hook the lap times.

Floor looks the same to me:

[djones]

I agree with the above that they were running on high fuel.

When watching on TV the car just looked heavy (like at the start of a race) rather than inherently unstable etc.

[101FlyingDutchman]

He’s not hooking it up in that pic is he? jokes it’s an evening shot so must be towards the end of the day

[Scorpaguy]

I've watched Toto over the last 6 years...I do not think anyone should be worried.

[dans79]

I agree with the above that they were running on high fuel.

When watching on TV the car just looked heavy (like at the start of a race) rather than inherently unstable etc.

It seems like they still haven't got the suspension in the zone yet. Yesterday they had all kinds of issues in slow speed traction zones.

Today they had snap over steer and some other issues almost like they weren't working the rears hard enough.

[edgelo]

I was the one who “saw” a different floor. I’ve looking for better photos and I was wrong, sorry

[mkay]

I've watched Toto over the last 6 years...I do not think anyone should be worried.

HAM more or less confirmed Mercedes is struggling with the rear end of the car. Either they haven't gotten on top of the 2021 Pirellis, or low rake cars are suffering a lot more from the floor changes.

Do people have any idea where Mercedes used its tokens?

[SiLo]

Anyone checked what speeds they have been doing? They don't look slow in the corners, just a bit twitchy.

Bottas' personal best min. speeds in the last 50 minutes: 82 km/h in T8, 80 km/h in T10, 162 km/h in T11, 142 km/h in T13, 134 km/h in T14.

I doubt anyone apart from Perez was touching those speeds...

Thanks but I meant on the straights. Was wondering if they were running with the ERS turned down a lot.

[HungarianRacer]

Anyone checked what speeds they have been doing? They don't look slow in the corners, just a bit twitchy.

Bottas' personal best min. speeds in the last 50 minutes: 82 km/h in T8, 80 km/h in T10, 162 km/h in T11, 142 km/h in T13, 134 km/h in T14.

I doubt anyone apart from Perez was touching those speeds...

Thanks but I meant on the straights. Was wondering if they were running with the ERS turned down a lot.

Perez and Bottas were barely cracking 300 km/h on the start/finish straight... Does that give you an idea?

[mkay]

Anyone checked what speeds they have been doing? They don't look slow in the corners, just a bit twitchy.

Bottas' personal best min. speeds in the last 50 minutes: 82 km/h in T8, 80 km/h in T10, 162 km/h in T11, 142 km/h in T13, 134 km/h in T14.

I doubt anyone apart from Perez was touching those speeds...

Thanks but I meant on the straights. Was wondering if they were running with the ERS turned down a lot.

On his C4/C5 runs, BOT was reaching 308-310kph down the main straight, 295-297kph on the run down to T4 and 302kph on the 3rd DRS zone.

I don't have datapoints for the main straight, but for instance I recall NOR was hitting 300kph on the run down to T4 which indicates to me Merc is probably running a little more detuned, but nothing major.

[F1Krof]

I've watched Toto over the last 6 years...I do not think anyone should be worried.

HAM more or less confirmed Mercedes is struggling with the rear end of the car. Either they haven't gotten on top of the 2021 Pirellis, or low rake cars are suffering a lot more from the floor changes.

Do people have any idea where Mercedes used its tokens?

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... 4hkIb.html

“[The track was] very gusty, as I found out into Turn 13, so the rear doesn’t feel particularly great with this new regulation change,” he added. “But we’re trying to find the sweet spot.”