Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

[isullivan]

AT sounds much more like 2019 Honda PU, maybe it is related to the old exhaust design they could be using with the old gearbox case ?

[McMika98]

Honda have made gains but they seem to be taking the risk and running at higher attrition than competition, Q1 lap on AT seem to be on high modes. Guess they really wanted Yuki to make waves.

Race tomorrow should give a clear picture. Does not help that Gasly already has to change his EC and battery, so have 23 laps to go on this set.

[epo]

Honda have made gains but they seem to be taking the risk and running at higher attrition than competition, Q1 lap on AT seem to be on high modes. Guess they really wanted Yuki to make waves.

Race tomorrow should give a clear picture. Does not help that Gasly already has to change his EC and battery, so have 23 laps to go on this set.

Because they can with AT push it and see what it can do which benefits RB.

[ryaan2904]

Honda have made gains but they seem to be taking the risk and running at higher attrition than competition, Q1 lap on AT seem to be on high modes. Guess they really wanted Yuki to make waves.

Race tomorrow should give a clear picture. Does not help that Gasly already has to change his EC and battery, so have 23 laps to go on this set.

What do you mean by gasly having to change the ec and battery? Is something the problem?

[Jaisonas]

AT sounds much more like 2019 Honda PU, maybe it is related to the old exhaust design they could be using with the old gearbox case ?

AT has a proper exhaust mic next to the wastegates where as redbull has the exhaust mic next to the gearbox now quite away from the exhaust

[HPD]

Toto Wolff: 'The Honda engine seems to have gotten a lot better. They have done very well in particular by releasing the electrical energy in the engine. In principle, we ran out of energy at the end of the round, but that did not bother Red Bull. They passed us by in that area. '
https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... e-21032709

[Snorked]

Great job by Honda, from having their ERS nullified to being on top?


Mercedes apparently have had issues with their hybrid system since last year - did they get hit by the TD too? Maybe Mudflap has some info on this...

https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2021 ... rrari.html

[cheeRS]

Great job by Honda, from having their ERS nullified to being on top?


Mercedes apparently have had issues with their hybrid system since last year - did they get hit by the TD too? Maybe Mudflap has some info on this...

https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2021 ... rrari.html

So with the TD last year, did it ban the unlimited MGU-K->ES->MGU-H energy pathway altogether? Or was it more too it than that? I thought the point of that unlimited area was to encourage development of the MGU-H throughout the years...

[velizare]

Honda have made gains but they seem to be taking the risk and running at higher attrition than competition, Q1 lap on AT seem to be on high modes. Guess they really wanted Yuki to make waves.

Race tomorrow should give a clear picture. Does not help that Gasly already has to change his EC and battery, so have 23 laps to go on this set.

What do you mean by gasly having to change the ec and battery? Is something the problem?

ye, they are done. konec, kaputt, finito. which will be problem on longer term, since there are only two parts allowed from those for the entire season. which is the better case. its very unusual to swap engine parts after 3 free practices.

[McMika98]

Honda have made gains but they seem to be taking the risk and running at higher attrition than competition, Q1 lap on AT seem to be on high modes. Guess they really wanted Yuki to make waves.

Race tomorrow should give a clear picture. Does not help that Gasly already has to change his EC and battery, so have 23 laps to go on this set.

What do you mean by gasly having to change the ec and battery? Is something the problem?

On the BBC feed, they reported issues in FP3, so he had to use a new set of EC unit and battery.

One thing is clear that on quali, Honda seem to be up there; validated by AT being very close to Merc. Race pace will be interesting in terms of engine advantage. Funny how the likes of Autosport are jumping on the Redbull bandwagon:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/the-r ... l/5951680/

I don't think they have a clear chassis advantage, they got rid of their problem of unstable rear which is plaguing Merc especially on the soft tyres. On mediums the Merc are quicker. The engine is a bigger difference maker than Redbull aero.

[etusch]

Honda have made gains but they seem to be taking the risk and running at higher attrition than competition, Q1 lap on AT seem to be on high modes. Guess they really wanted Yuki to make waves.

Race tomorrow should give a clear picture. Does not help that Gasly already has to change his EC and battery, so have 23 laps to go on this set.

What do you mean by gasly having to change the ec and battery? Is something the problem?

On the BBC feed, they reported issues in FP3, so he had to use a new set of EC unit and battery.

One thing is clear that on quali, Honda seem to be up there; validated by AT being very close to Merc. Race pace will be interesting in terms of engine advantage. Funny how the likes of Autosport are jumping on the Redbull bandwagon:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/the-r ... l/5951680/

I don't think they have a clear chassis advantage, they got rid of their problem of unstable rear which is plaguing Merc especially on the soft tyres. On mediums the Merc are quicker. The engine is a bigger difference maker than Redbull aero.

verstappen's mediums are fresher than merso's because of less forced lap. But even if this is not the case, it is different things to being faster at one lap and being faster at long runs.
Redbull's aero was already decent. But car had some issues which are now fixed like you said. It is now a full force car.

[toraabe]

Honda have made gains but they seem to be taking the risk and running at higher attrition than competition, Q1 lap on AT seem to be on high modes. Guess they really wanted Yuki to make waves.

Race tomorrow should give a clear picture. Does not help that Gasly already has to change his EC and battery, so have 23 laps to go on this set.

Because they can with AT push it and see what it can do which benefits RB.

Impossible. All teams using the respective engine has to run the same program

[epo]

Honda have made gains but they seem to be taking the risk and running at higher attrition than competition, Q1 lap on AT seem to be on high modes. Guess they really wanted Yuki to make waves.

Race tomorrow should give a clear picture. Does not help that Gasly already has to change his EC and battery, so have 23 laps to go on this set.

Because they can with AT push it and see what it can do which benefits RB.

Impossible. All teams using the respective engine has to run the same program

Have it, but not actually using it?

[ryaan2904]

Honda have made gains but they seem to be taking the risk and running at higher attrition than competition, Q1 lap on AT seem to be on high modes. Guess they really wanted Yuki to make waves.

Race tomorrow should give a clear picture. Does not help that Gasly already has to change his EC and battery, so have 23 laps to go on this set.

What do you mean by gasly having to change the ec and battery? Is something the problem?

On the BBC feed, they reported issues in FP3, so he had to use a new set of EC unit and battery.

One thing is clear that on quali, Honda seem to be up there; validated by AT being very close to Merc. Race pace will be interesting in terms of engine advantage. Funny how the likes of Autosport are jumping on the Redbull bandwagon:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/the-r ... l/5951680/

I don't think they have a clear chassis advantage, they got rid of their problem of unstable rear which is plaguing Merc especially on the soft tyres. On mediums the Merc are quicker. The engine is a bigger difference maker than Redbull aero.

Reliability problems even before race 1? Honda did say they were worried about reliability. However, I'm still impressed with that power unit

[Big Tea]

Honda have made gains but they seem to be taking the risk and running at higher attrition than competition, Q1 lap on AT seem to be on high modes. Guess they really wanted Yuki to make waves.

Race tomorrow should give a clear picture. Does not help that Gasly already has to change his EC and battery, so have 23 laps to go on this set.

What do you mean by gasly having to change the ec and battery? Is something the problem?

ye, they are done. konec, kaputt, finito. which will be problem on longer term, since there are only two parts allowed from those for the entire season. which is the better case. its very unusual to swap engine parts after 3 free practices.

There is a possibility to re use the components if they can be fixed within the regs