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[_cerber1]

He was in front before he went off track. So the off track time gain is the same Hamilton gained 29 times...

In this photo, both cars are parallel, one is on the track, the other is not. All other questions are superfluous.

[DChemTech]

No! Because in a second Max will be out of the track. Hamilton hit the apex because he slowed down, Verstappen drove by.

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He was in front before he went off track. So the off track time gain is the same Hamilton gained 29 times...

Again, none of that matters when it comes to the rules of passing!

Proof enough that that is a dumb rule, then

Anyway, it is a valid question to ask when the situation changes from 'passing' (and hence, illegal, with the current rooms) to 'non-passing' (and hence legal, with the current rules). Where is the transition between those situations? Another ambiguity, that would simply be erased by making the rule 'stay within the lines, always'

[dans79]

He was in front before he went off track. So the off track time gain is the same Hamilton gained 29 times...

Again, none of that matters when it comes to the rules of passing!

Proof enough that that is a dumb rule, then

Anyway, it is a valid question to ask when the situation changes from 'passing' (and hence, illegal, with the current rooms) to 'non-passing' (and hence legal, with the current rules). Where is the transition between those situations? Another ambiguity, that would simply be erased by making the rule 'stay within the lines, always'

Stuff like this is covered every weekend in the driver's meeting it's one of the reasons they have the meeting. It's not simple and straightforward, because driving at this level isn't simple or straightforward.

[PlatinumZealot]

Can someone explain why Verstappen was constantly losing time relative to Hamilton down the straight? Their speed traps in qualifying for were identical, and isn’t the same engine mode used on Sunday? Where does the disparity come from, is it deployment?

Anyway, despite the disappointing result and questionable stewarding, I am still optimistic about the season in hand.

Bahrain is one of Red Bull’s worst circuits of the hybrid era. They don’t have a single podium here from 2014-2019, so the pace we saw today is a huge positive.

Also, Bahrain is one of the biggest power circuits on the calendar. If we assume that the Red Bull is as better than the Mercedes through corners but worse down the straight, then slower circuits like Imola, Barcelona, Monaco etc... should hopefully be better.

Could be the fuel weight effect on the ride height.
The Mercedes probably gets much more slippery at lower ride heights than the RedBull does. just a guess. Could even be the differential issue that Max had?

[aral]

If you want to discuss the actual race or Hamilton, please do so on the race thread

[Flying JPS Lotus]

Anyone else excited for Perez this year? During the race it was really nice to see the 2nd RBR driver looking confident when overtaking. I haven't seen the 2nd driver look that committed to overtaking in a long time.

[dren]

Anyone else excited for Perez this year? During the race it was really nice to see the 2nd RBR driver looking confident when overtaking. I haven't seen the 2nd driver look that committed to overtaking in a long time.

He looks good in the race, and has in the past. I just hope he finds that little bit extra in qualifying that the team really needs.

[aMessageToCharlie]

Albon was great at overtaking too!

The problem that he had was actually starting where the car belongs to be. And Perrez first attempt at that wasnt anything to write home about either, so l'll reserve my "judgement".

Definitely looking forward to what Perrez can do though. RBR desperately need a strong second driver to challenge Merc.

[Marti_EF3]

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[etusch]

Anyone else excited for Perez this year? During the race it was really nice to see the 2nd RBR driver looking confident when overtaking. I haven't seen the 2nd driver look that committed to overtaking in a long time.

I think he did well between so many mishaps. We need to see him in a better race with better starting P.

[godlameroso]

Verstappen had more pace but lost out by not copying Mercedes strategy of using the hards. This is the difference, and why he lost vs when Hamilton won in Hungary.

In Hungary, Hamilton copied Verstappen's strategy and then pushed him on the same tires, this gave Hamilton the edge and allowed him to pass. Verstappen planned to go to the end, but he burned up his tires defending from Hamilton, which meant if he pitted again, Hamilton would have gotten him on the undercut, and would have lost position, his only hope was to defend on tires which he had burned up defending earlier.

Verstappen should have copied Hamilton's strategy at first and pressured him, have him burn up his tires if he gets the undercut on you by pressuring him, then get the undercut back on him, or force him to stay on the tires in the hopes of maintaining track position. Much harder to do when your tires got used up from defending.

[etusch]

[etusch]

Verstappen had more pace but lost out by not copying Mercedes strategy of using the hards. This is the difference, and why he lost vs when Hamilton won in Hungary.

In Hungary, Hamilton copied Verstappen's strategy and then pushed him on the same tires, this gave Hamilton the edge and allowed him to pass. Verstappen planned to go to the end, but he burned up his tires defending from Hamilton, which meant if he pitted again, Hamilton would have gotten him on the undercut, and would have lost position, his only hope was to defend on tires which he had burned up defending earlier.

Verstappen should have copied Hamilton's strategy at first and pressured him, have him burn up his tires if he gets the undercut on you by pressuring him, then get the undercut back on him, or force him to stay on the tires in the hopes of maintaining track position. Much harder to do when your tires got used up from defending.

I also surprised by their reaction. they didn't answer with pit stop or faster lap times

[godlameroso]

It's fine, to be honest I'm glad RBR didn't win the season opener. They know they have the pace and it will make things more interesting from here on out. They're so close that strategic calls and the drivers and the team work all has to be perfect to win. There's still 22 races where we can enjoy 1.5 hour strategic and racing duels, I'm really excited, and I know that Perez will soon be there challenging Bottas and Hamilton as well.

[restless]

Verstappen had more pace but lost out by not copying Mercedes strategy of using the hards. This is the difference, and why he lost vs when Hamilton won in Hungary.

At first stop, Hamilton had 50% chance of overtaking. They did the right call, unless planned to do the same thing later on second stop.
They were risking to stop, come behind Hamilton and and have tyres with same age