2021 Alpine F1 Team

[selvam_e2002]

Please watch the Alonso F1 Race start in tweeter. It seems he is in 1 gear and not the perfect pull.
#alpine #f1 #bahrain
https://twitter.com/alo_oficial

[Andres125sx]

I feel bad for Alonso. I think he just gave up, he felt there's nothing to race for, call it a day.

Agree, he gave up when the team asked him to retire the car for a safety issue with the brakes... coward!

[Andres125sx]

It seems all hopes rest on 2022 chassis and 2022 power unit, but none of this has been demonstrated. The upward trend of the 2018 Renault really seems to have stalled badly. In 2019 they went backwards, in 2020 they improved a bit, now 2021 and they have gone backwards again.

This is what I can’t wrap my head around.. they “claimed” to be focused on the new regs as a reason as to why they didn’t bother to alter the 2019 car.

But surely if everything rests on that why wouldn’t they at least make sure the new engine is not a dud by putting it into a new 2020 chassis? I mean you can lose or gain a lot of performance/reliability just by how good the packaging is so you’d think they would want to test that before the new regs and make sure it’s actually as good and reliable as they hope it is. The whole thing is just baffling considering they had another chance to do it in 2021 and failed to take the decision while McLaren saw the opportunity to change practically there whole car and jumped at the opportunity. Now they are stuck again with an engine package that’s going to be useless next year. It doesn’t make any sense..

McLaren made a switch to Mercedes PU, but that´s not a new PU, ie they will only suffer some packaging problems. Alpine switching to their new PU would cause packaging problems, but also teethering problems as the PU is untested. Different scenarios

[Andres125sx]

Maybe next year they will be in front of RB that push all for 2021

Maybe, but where is the racey approach and continual improvement from Renault and Alpine?

It seems all hopes rest on 2022 chassis and 2022 power unit, but none of this has been demonstrated.

Alonso signing in with Alpine is a good evidence if you aske me. He left F1 because he didn´t have a competitive car, he must have seen something on Alpine´s project to sign in

Or that´s my hope at least!

[selvam_e2002]

Alpine doing 18inch test in Bahrain this week along with Ferrari but not sure who is going to drive for Alpine.

[selvam_e2002]

He did same for Mclaren+Honda which failed horribly. But I suspect Alonso aiming for 2022. He is just giving an try and if it is not successful he may retire permanently and go for full time indy

[Jambier]

He did same for Mclaren+Honda which failed horribly. But I suspect Alonso aiming for 2022. He is just giving an try and if it is not successful he may retire permanently and go for full time indy

Agreed
There was an opportunity here to be back and have a shot with 2022

So that’s why he is here.

My concern for Alpine is the future: RIC was the perfect long term driver, now what?

[godlameroso]

I feel bad for Alonso. I think he just gave up, he felt there's nothing to race for, call it a day.

Agree, he gave up when the team asked him to retire the car for a safety issue with the brakes... coward!

You act like he didn't have such issues in his last year at McLaren when he was fighting for p12.

[diffuser]

He did same for Mclaren+Honda which failed horribly. But I suspect Alonso aiming for 2022. He is just giving an try and if it is not successful he may retire permanently and go for full time indy

Agreed
There was an opportunity here to be back and have a shot with 2022

So that’s why he is here.

My concern for Alpine is the future: RIC was the perfect long term driver, now what?

If they're fighting for victories next year like Alpine plan on doing, they will not have problems luring a top driver for 2023. Maybe even Daniel Ricciardo.

[diffuser]

I feel bad for Alonso. I think he just gave up, he felt there's nothing to race for, call it a day.

Agree, he gave up when the team asked him to retire the car for a safety issue with the brakes... coward!

You act like he didn't have such issues in his last year at McLaren when he was fighting for p12.

Yeah, he'd been known to do that during those terrible McLaren Years. The Car was terrible and there was no hope insight. It isn't the same in 2021, he's still trying to up his game to where it was.

[Herr_Koos]

He did same for Mclaren+Honda which failed horribly. But I suspect Alonso aiming for 2022. He is just giving an try and if it is not successful he may retire permanently and go for full time indy

Agreed
There was an opportunity here to be back and have a shot with 2022

So that’s why he is here.

My concern for Alpine is the future: RIC was the perfect long term driver, now what?

If they're fighting for victories next year like Alpine plan on doing, they will not have problems luring a top driver for 2023. Maybe even Daniel Ricciardo.

Danny Ric went to McLaren because he felt they were in a better position to deliver a winning car with the rule shake-up than Renault/Alpine. Given that McLaren have a settled leadership team with a strong technical team delivering consistent on-track results, versus the umpteenth shake-up at Renault, I would be very surprised if Alpine build a better 2022 car than McLaren. I seem to recall DR signing a 3 year deal, so that's him at McLaren until end of 2023 anyway.

Looking long term, Alpine might be looking to get a promising young talent on board. Gasly and Ocon could be a French dream team for them. I suspect Red Bull will be keen to promote Tsunoda to the senior team if he keeps on performing, so Gasly would need a seat in another top team if he want a shot at wins and titles. Alpha Tauri will not be that team, I don't think.

[diffuser]

Agreed
There was an opportunity here to be back and have a shot with 2022

So that’s why he is here.

My concern for Alpine is the future: RIC was the perfect long term driver, now what?

If they're fighting for victories next year like Alpine plan on doing, they will not have problems luring a top driver for 2023. Maybe even Daniel Ricciardo.

Danny Ric went to McLaren because he felt they were in a better position to deliver a winning car with the rule shake-up than Renault/Alpine. Given that McLaren have a settled leadership team with a strong technical team delivering consistent on-track results, versus the umpteenth shake-up at Renault, I would be very surprised if Alpine build a better 2022 car than McLaren. I seem to recall DR signing a 3 year deal, so that's him at McLaren until end of 2023 anyway.

Looking long term, Alpine might be looking to get a promising young talent on board. Gasly and Ocon could be a French dream team for them. I suspect Red Bull will be keen to promote Tsunoda to the senior team if he keeps on performing, so Gasly would need a seat in another top team if he want a shot at wins and titles. Alpha Tauri will not be that team, I don't think.

Danny Ricciardo has a 2 year contract with "his" option to stay for a third(aka McLaren have no say). I just threw his name out there as an example of a possibility. This year and next year are such big years for so many drivers. Our opinions of drivers will change over the next two years. I don't see alonso Leaving BTW. So I would expect a Alonso and someone in 2023. I like Gasly better than Ocon right now but I don't think either of them can hang with Alonso. I won't even mention Tsunoda. Finishing 3 in F2 + one good drive in F1 does not a great driver make, to quote Yoda. Stoffel Vandoorne Finished 2nd one year and 1st in a 2nd year at GP2 and is now driving in Formula-EEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeee.


I'll give you that, maybe if they flip the coin 100 times 55 times it comes up McLaren and they have the better year in 2022. We only play the year once and the coin might come up Alpine for 2022.


It's only James Keys 2nd year at McLaren and there was a major restructuring at McLaren the year before that continued with James Keys coming in for the 2020 season. So not as much stability as you suggest at McLaren.

[selvam_e2002]

I would say bring Russel in place of Ocon. It is a good choice for them in long run.

[radosav]

[diffuser]

I would say bring Russel in place of Ocon. It is a good choice for them in long run.

Russel is Merc property and is going to Merc at some point.