2021 AMG Mercedes F1 Team

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Ant driving the W12:


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I wonder how much time/money is spent on this instead of R&D. Meanwhile, RB is busy quietly developing its RB16 and running away with the championship.
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mkay wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 01:56
I wonder how much time/money is spent on this instead of R&D. Meanwhile, RB is busy quietly developing its RB12 and running away with the championship.
If memory serves it can all be written of as advertising, and they might even be able to gain some information from it.
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dans79 wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 02:06
mkay wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 01:56
I wonder how much time/money is spent on this instead of R&D. Meanwhile, RB is busy quietly developing its RB12 and running away with the championship.
If memory serves it can all be written of as advertising, and they might even be able to gain some information from it.
Will certainly help Ant in his role as the sim driver.

I think it’s a pretty savvy move.

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I don't remember.... some one said in this thread that Mercedes deliberately loosing point to RB to get more wind tunnel. There is an article which confirms that, Mercedes getting more windtunnel time starting today i.e. 1st of July 2021. We will see if they did lost the point deliberately or not now on.

Not sure for which car they are going to use 5% of Wind tunnel testing this year car or next year car..... no clue.

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Debrief.



Edit: Whelp sorry I missed that this was already posted. :mrgreen:
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mkay wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 01:56
I wonder how much time/money is spent on this instead of R&D. Meanwhile, RB is busy quietly developing its RB12 and running away with the championship.
They already lost the 2016 championship. :wink:
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Just_a_fan wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 13:06
mkay wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 01:56
I wonder how much time/money is spent on this instead of R&D. Meanwhile, RB is busy quietly developing its RB12 and running away with the championship.
They already lost the 2016 championship. :wink:
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Just_a_fan wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 13:06
mkay wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 01:56
I wonder how much time/money is spent on this instead of R&D. Meanwhile, RB is busy quietly developing its RB12 and running away with the championship.
They already lost the 2016 championship. :wink:
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Oops. I got confused with W12. I've promptly edited my post!

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 04:14
I don't remember.... some one said in this thread that Mercedes deliberately loosing point to RB to get more wind tunnel. There is an article which confirms that, Mercedes getting more windtunnel time starting today i.e. 1st of July 2021. We will see if they did lost the point deliberately or not now on.

Not sure for which car they are going to use 5% of Wind tunnel testing this year car or next year car..... no clue.
I don't think they are deliberately behind in the constructors championship, if it was deliberate they would be one point behind or at most a single figure digit behind instead of being 40 points behind.

Imo they are 40 points behind because the season hasn't gone to plan, let's hope things turn around and they can get back into the fight before it's too late.

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Dont take this the wrong way, not trying to stir, but surely also Merc fans must get tired of this;

Now Hamilton is saying he knew updates were coming already for some time. Just like Wolff he is directly saying the opposite of last weekend when he was making it appear he didn’t know about updates.

Coupled with the constant insinuating RB is somehow cheating and their exhausting underdog theatre, this makes it hard to like them or take anything they say seriously.

Just be authentic for a change and admit you got a great car (although not dominant such as previous years), a great team and all is still to play for in this championship even though they now seem to have an opponent that no longer is faced with a car deficit
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Pyrone89 wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:20
Now Hamilton is saying he knew updates were coming already for some time. Just like Wolff he is directly saying the opposite of last weekend when he was making it appear he didn’t know about updates.

Coupled with the constant insinuating RB is somehow cheating and their exhausting underdog theatre, this makes it hard to like them or take anything they say seriously.

Just be authentic for a change
Much like any other team that has been at the top for a long time and realised F1 is 75% politics 25% actual racing.

The best thing you can do is ignore 90% of what you read in the media about these teams.
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SiLo wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:22
Pyrone89 wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:20
Now Hamilton is saying he knew updates were coming already for some time. Just like Wolff he is directly saying the opposite of last weekend when he was making it appear he didn’t know about updates.

Coupled with the constant insinuating RB is somehow cheating and their exhausting underdog theatre, this makes it hard to like them or take anything they say seriously.

Just be authentic for a change
Much like any other team that has been at the top for a long time and realised F1 is 75% politics 25% actual racing.

The best thing you can do is ignore 90% of what you read in the media about these teams.
I dont remember Ferrari, Williams or Red Bull doing it this way in their era. Sure there was some politics, but none of the fake defeatism
True GOATs don’t need the help of superior material to win.

Tom Brady, Usain Bolt are true GOATs.

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Pyrone89 wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:25
SiLo wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:22
Pyrone89 wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:20
Now Hamilton is saying he knew updates were coming already for some time. Just like Wolff he is directly saying the opposite of last weekend when he was making it appear he didn’t know about updates.

Coupled with the constant insinuating RB is somehow cheating and their exhausting underdog theatre, this makes it hard to like them or take anything they say seriously.

Just be authentic for a change
Much like any other team that has been at the top for a long time and realised F1 is 75% politics 25% actual racing.

The best thing you can do is ignore 90% of what you read in the media about these teams.
I dont remember Ferrari, Williams or Red Bull doing it this way in their era. Sure there was some politics, but none of the fake defeatism
Then again, we didn't have the same media, and online media, social media either to constantly ask for quotes adn 'controversy' to bait clicks and views about motorsports (yes, we always had trash press, esp. in UK, and surely in Italy too, with rubbish stories about teams and drivers, but not everyone was doing that sort of stuff), and a lot less access to what was said, so it ended up a lot more filtered.

In the Williams and McLaren era's certainly, it was a lot easier to not be aware of the amount of pettiness when I was watching F1 in NL, because we just didn't have that amount of coverage, for example.

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bosyber wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:38
Pyrone89 wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:25
SiLo wrote:
01 Jul 2021, 17:22

Much like any other team that has been at the top for a long time and realised F1 is 75% politics 25% actual racing.

The best thing you can do is ignore 90% of what you read in the media about these teams.
I dont remember Ferrari, Williams or Red Bull doing it this way in their era. Sure there was some politics, but none of the fake defeatism
Then again, we didn't have the same media, and online media, social media either to constantly ask for quotes adn 'controversy' to bait clicks and views about motorsports (yes, we always had trash press, esp. in UK, and surely in Italy too, with rubbish stories about teams and drivers, but not everyone was doing that sort of stuff), and a lot less access to what was said, so it ended up a lot more filtered.

In the Williams and McLaren era's certainly, it was a lot easier to not be aware of the amount of pettiness when I was watching F1 in NL, because we just didn't have that amount of coverage, for example.
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