Esteban Ocon secured a surprise win at the Hungarian Grand Prix after the usual contenders eliminated one another in the first corner at the start. Sebastian Vettel finished second, Lewis Hamilton salvaged with third after ending up at the back early on.
We've all been impressed by the battle between Alonso and Hamilton with some great defensive driving from the 2-time champion. It's worth remembering that he was helped by Kimi coming out of the pits at an early stage as Hamilton was about to overtake in to T1. Kimi was in the pit lane exit lane so effectively blocked the attempt. It was a few laps before Hamilton was able to get that close again and put the pressure on Alonso's worn tyres resulting in the slight lock up that allowed him through. This not taking away from Alonso, he drove brilliantly, but Ocon needs to thank Kimi's team for pitting him when they did.
Most importantly, Ocon should thank Bottas for brain fade.
that battle show why drs is a bad idea .it make passing easy they should be nothing easy about f1 it is the pinnacle of motor racing.the art of overtaking and defence has been negated by drs .overtaking heroes like kobayashi are no more hailed.i want to see drivers fighting getting frustrated race getting ruined emotion boiling over and if you make a pass it should be meaningful because you took a risk and earned it
whenever merc is on back foot fia are eager to start giving a flurry of penalty.mclaren asked for penalties in Baku but were rebuffed that you all have been doing it .they had the audacity to investigate max on lewis in imola but it took a lot of lobbying for max crash in silverstone just to be investigated.but anything that happen on merc cars get investigated instantly like in bahrain
It's a good job (for us) that Vettel didn't go into all out fuel saving mode a few laps from the end. Can you imagine all the conspiracy theory posts if Vettel had slowed up and 'allowed' Hamilton to pass for 2nd place?
Lance Stroll behaviour in turn 1 was embarrassing. Something a F3 driver would do. Both himself and Bottas are the new Torpedos. Five place grid penalty is not enough. Should start last at the next race.
It's a good job (for us) that Vettel didn't go into all out fuel saving mode a few laps from the end. Can you imagine all the conspiracy theory posts if Vettel had slowed up and 'allowed' Hamilton to pass for 2nd place?
Well, there was no need for this, there was 1.74l left according to the FIA fuel meter.
If I read it correctly, the fuel lift pump is broken. That is why they could not get the fuel from the tank in the normal way. The car is on its way to the FIA in France, the question is if they find the fuel there or not.
It's a good job (for us) that Vettel didn't go into all out fuel saving mode a few laps from the end. Can you imagine all the conspiracy theory posts if Vettel had slowed up and 'allowed' Hamilton to pass for 2nd place?
Well, there was no need for this, there was 1.74l left according to the FIA fuel meter.
If I read it correctly, the fuel lift pump is broken. That is why they could not get the fuel from the tank in the normal way. The car is on its way to the FIA in France, the question is if they find the fuel there or not.
Yeah I find it hard to believe a car would have too little fuel at the end of the race in this day and age. The only way for that to go wrong is if something else broke (a sensor, or in this case pump, or even a leak). I am assuming there are a lot of failsafes here since this is a tightly monitored area of car performance.
What's happening with Ricciardo? Even a very broken and hard to drive Red Bull could overtake him.
He's coming across as a driver in the Button mould - very quick in a car that's exactly how he wants it, strangely off colour in a car that's not to his exact liking.
Either that or he's having an "off season". All drivers have them at some point where they just can't seem to get themselves "on it".
There's also the third option: maybe Norris is just faster than him and making him look slow. Which would be a surprise, to be honest.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.
Some thoughts on the race:
While some may have enjoyed the race and seeing a different winner, it also gave us a good insight into "reverse grid" and how problematic it might be. In the initial stage of the race, Hamilton was stuck in a DRS train of multiple cars following Mick Schumacher, Verstappen and Gasly. With all of them having DRS and Verstappen initially not getting past Mick, we had a train for multiple laps. It was only once people got passt Schumacher that the train slowly started to neutralize.
If you had a reverse-grid of cars in opposite performance order - the speed delta between cars would be far too small to enhance the "overtaking spectacle". We'd just end up with a long train of cars. It's always cool to see a quicker car fight through traffic, as Hamilton then was able to do with fresher tires, but the exception doesn't make the rule.
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Something I don't get about Vettel's issue... How the hell there can be only 0.3L of fuel remaining considering there's been some laps under safety car ?!
Normally the first 20ish minutes should have been driven slower due to mixed conditions. Due to the red flag they were almost entirely on slicks and full attack. If they took the wet start into account they might have fuelled less thus resulting into issues
Something I don't get about Vettel's issue... How the hell there can be only 0.3L of fuel remaining considering there's been some laps under safety car ?!
Normally the first 20ish minutes should have been driven slower due to mixed conditions. Due to the red flag they were almost entirely on slicks and full attack. If they took the wet start into account they might have fuelled less thus resulting into issues
There's also the point that he was at the front. He and Ocon disappeared in to the distance where others were sat in trains, unable to use all of the performance in their cars. By being out in front and doing fast lap times, they'd have naturally used more fuel. Also, with a chasing faster car, they didn't get to slow down near the end of the race like the leaders often are able to do. A Merc or a Red Bull out in front by 15 seconds gets to lift and coast a lot in the last few laps and that saves a lot of fuel.
Be interested to hear how close to the 1 litre limit others were, particularly Ocon who was similarly "out of position".
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.
Something I don't get about Vettel's issue... How the hell there can be only 0.3L of fuel remaining considering there's been some laps under safety car ?!
Normally the first 20ish minutes should have been driven slower due to mixed conditions. Due to the red flag they were almost entirely on slicks and full attack. If they took the wet start into account they might have fuelled less thus resulting into issues
There's also the point that he was at the front. He and Ocon disappeared in to the distance where others were sat in trains, unable to use all of the performance in their cars. By being out in front and doing fast lap times, they'd have naturally used more fuel. Also, with a chasing faster car, they didn't get to slow down near the end of the race like the leaders often are able to do. A Merc or a Red Bull out in front by 15 seconds gets to lift and coast a lot in the last few laps and that saves a lot of fuel.
Be interested to hear how close to the 1 litre limit others were, particularly Ocon who was similarly "out of position".
The team are adamant there is 1.44l left in the car but the lifts pumps wont get it out for whatever reason
What's happening with Ricciardo? Even a very broken and hard to drive Red Bull could overtake him.
He's coming across as a driver in the Button mould - very quick in a car that's exactly how he wants it, strangely off colour in a car that's not to his exact liking.
Either that or he's having an "off season". All drivers have them at some point where they just can't seem to get themselves "on it".
There's also the third option: maybe Norris is just faster than him and making him look slow. Which would be a surprise, to be honest.
I suspect if SAI was in the other McLaren they’d both be on similar points/extracting similar performance from the racecar. Which is why I don’t expect RIC to figure it out this season, there’s something not right with his feel in that car.
Next year will be the bell-weather. Most are dumping their stock in RIC, I think it’s a good time to buy.
It was especially revealing how fantastic and heavyweight fighter of a driver Alonso still is, looking at how swiftly Hamilton then got up to Sainz and 'easily' passed Sainz.
Sainz was saving fuel as early as 10 laps out and was on much older tires than any of the cars in the top 5. There was no way he was playing defense against Lewis at that point. I'm surprised he kept Alonso behind to be honest. The pace delta between he and Alonso was growing by the lap towards the end.
Yeah Sainz had tyres that were 7 laps older than Fernando's. If Sainz had tyres 7 laps newer, he too would have been able to keep Hamilton at bay for much longer. Fernando was able to pull out to 8 tenths in sector 3 to stop Lewis passing as he had the tyres to do so, Sainz did not.
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Lance Stroll behaviour in turn 1 was embarrassing. Something a F3 driver would do. Both himself and Bottas are the new Torpedos. Five place grid penalty is not enough. Should start last at the next race.
I mean, why are people so disconnected from reality ? Yes what happened yesterday was bad, and should never happen again, especially at this level. With all that said, this was Bottas' first ever 1st lap mishap in his entire career. But somehow, he's the 'new torpedo' according to you smh
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