2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 30 - Aug 01

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nacho wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 11:51
Does anyone else think that maybe Bottas thought Lando is going to go deeper into the corner as there was so much free space? Not saying the crash wasn't 100% his fault or in any way Lando's fault.

There's no reason for Bottas to crash to Lando when he's fighting for his seat (or any other time), which is gone now I think. Perhaps he's in a similar downward spiral now as Vettel was.
Nah, just missed his braking point/feel after a bad start. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 10:44
santos wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 10:30
What's happening with Ricciardo? Even a very broken and hard to drive Red Bull could overtake him.
He's coming across as a driver in the Button mould - very quick in a car that's exactly how he wants it, strangely off colour in a car that's not to his exact liking.

Either that or he's having an "off season". All drivers have them at some point where they just can't seem to get themselves "on it".

There's also the third option: maybe Norris is just faster than him and making him look slow. Which would be a surprise, to be honest.
Could be both I guess. We've seen it with Vettel - he was fabulous until the big regulation change and lost much of what made him special after, yet even in the past few years he had decent and terrible seasons at Ferrari. Norris being quicker - sure, he can be, but the difference is too large for that being the sole reason, I think.

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nacho wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 11:51
Does anyone else think that maybe Bottas thought Lando is going to go deeper into the corner as there was so much free space? Not saying the crash wasn't 100% his fault or in any way Lando's fault.

There's no reason for Bottas to crash to Lando when he's fighting for his seat (or any other time), which is gone now I think. Perhaps he's in a similar downward spiral now as Vettel was.
he just backed off being squeezed and overtaken maybe he was just re-adjusting to the new situation when they were already braking.

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ab_f1 wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 11:45
El Scorchio wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 11:22
I wonder if Hamilton will look at what Alonso said about how he raced it and look at how he can make adjustments himself in the future? It was FASCINATING that Alonso said that afterwards. Great insight into it.
That was Alonso being Alonso :). Look at his body language and you would know that it was "gamesmanship".
Both had a good fight within the constraints of where each was in the championship. Alonso could afford hard battle given Ocon up the road. Lewis knowing worst case being still leading championship had to be cautious. Its numbers game both were playing.
Absolutely. If there’s a driver in the field that’s mastered the clean-DRS-pass it’s HAM. He was just doing what he normally does with an offset line, giving himself some cleaner air to run his front wing into.
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So in fuel they always talk about kg , so how much kg is a liter of fuel than ?

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maxxer wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 12:00
So in fuel they always talk about kg , so how much kg is a liter of fuel than ?
About 0.7 - 0.75 kg.

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maxxer wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 12:00
So in fuel they always talk about kg , so how much kg is a liter of fuel than ?
Depends on the temp I think.
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Driver of the day

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Jolle wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 12:02
maxxer wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 12:00
So in fuel they always talk about kg , so how much kg is a liter of fuel than ?
About 0.7 - 0.75 kg.
Guess this has to come from the max allowed fuel to take

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maxxer wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 12:09
Jolle wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 12:02
maxxer wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 12:00
So in fuel they always talk about kg , so how much kg is a liter of fuel than ?
About 0.7 - 0.75 kg.
Guess this has to come from the max allowed fuel to take
No, you are allowed to use 110kg or fuel for the race. You may carry more.

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Correct me if i am wrong , but before Masi if there was freak weather before start they would do more formation laps , why didnt they do one more for drivers to be able to adjust to the new situation.

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maxxer wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 12:12
Correct me if i am wrong , but before Masi if there was freak weather before start they would do more formation laps , why didnt they do one more for drivers to be able to adjust to the new situation.
Was this freak weather though? It seemed like a mild shower. I thought the multiple formation laps were mostly there to rid the track of excessive water.

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DChemTech wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 12:16
maxxer wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 12:12
Correct me if i am wrong , but before Masi if there was freak weather before start they would do more formation laps , why didnt they do one more for drivers to be able to adjust to the new situation.
Was this freak weather though? It seemed like a mild shower. I thought the multiple formation laps were mostly there to rid the track of excessive water.
Didnt see the intensity just listen to sky thought they talked about a downpour before start

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NathanOlder wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 11:24
Shrieker wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 11:11
fritticaldi wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 10:25
Lance Stroll behaviour in turn 1 was embarrassing. Something a F3 driver would do. Both himself and Bottas are the new Torpedos. Five place grid penalty is not enough. Should start last at the next race.
I mean, why are people so disconnected from reality ? Yes what happened yesterday was bad, and should never happen again, especially at this level. With all that said, this was Bottas' first ever 1st lap mishap in his entire career. But somehow, he's the 'new torpedo' according to you smh
Not strictly true, He torpedo'd Lewis in Bahrain in 2016 I think it was. Maybe 2015.
Yes, my bad. Needs rephrasing; this was his first ever first lap retirement in his career.
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DChemTech wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 11:57
Just_a_fan wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 10:44
santos wrote:
02 Aug 2021, 10:30
What's happening with Ricciardo? Even a very broken and hard to drive Red Bull could overtake him.
He's coming across as a driver in the Button mould - very quick in a car that's exactly how he wants it, strangely off colour in a car that's not to his exact liking.

Either that or he's having an "off season". All drivers have them at some point where they just can't seem to get themselves "on it".

There's also the third option: maybe Norris is just faster than him and making him look slow. Which would be a surprise, to be honest.
Could be both I guess. We've seen it with Vettel - he was fabulous until the big regulation change and lost much of what made him special after, yet even in the past few years he had decent and terrible seasons at Ferrari. Norris being quicker - sure, he can be, but the difference is too large for that being the sole reason, I think.
Apparently RIC had pretty big damage from 1st lap incident with Lec. He was told on the radio even before the red flag. Hard to tell how much performance was lost due to damage and how much of it was his issue driving this year's MCL car...