I'm going to be harsh and say that's a slam-dunk penalty.
I agree… Not only does Ocon simply doesn’t car that Lando is there, he continues to “race” him after the incident.
I personally despise the bloke- he’s so arrogant.
Well, you have Monza next where I expect McLaren to be extremely quick. So if both McLarens can finish in the points that lessens the sting.Emag wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 16:30The track is honestly similar to Baku, but shorter. Yes, there's a lot of fast / medium corners, but the slow ones are brutal as well as they usually are followed by a straight. Ferrari should be more than decent here.
We have also had such bad luck lately. Austria seems like an eternity ago now.
Belgium seemingly suited McLaren a lot more than Ferrari, and the race doesn't even get going. We got only 3 points on Ferrari where it could have easily been 20+ (I must admit, it could have gone the other way around too, not guaranteed on mixed conditions).
Now here, where Ferrari is stronger, McLaren doesn't look too good, and the sun is shining. To add to that, Pirelli has gone cautious with the tire choice being unfamiliar with the track. So there's no point in even hoping bad tire wear in the race for Ferrari.
I dont expect Daniel to be a contender for points in this race and Lando should be happy to get somewhere arround 8th place. In Monza they will be quick, but the way that lady luck is acting, i am afraid something will happen to ruin their chances for a great result.JPower wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 17:30Well, you have Monza next where I expect McLaren to be extremely quick. So if both McLarens can finish in the points that lessens the sting.Emag wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 16:30The track is honestly similar to Baku, but shorter. Yes, there's a lot of fast / medium corners, but the slow ones are brutal as well as they usually are followed by a straight. Ferrari should be more than decent here.
We have also had such bad luck lately. Austria seems like an eternity ago now.
Belgium seemingly suited McLaren a lot more than Ferrari, and the race doesn't even get going. We got only 3 points on Ferrari where it could have easily been 20+ (I must admit, it could have gone the other way around too, not guaranteed on mixed conditions).
Now here, where Ferrari is stronger, McLaren doesn't look too good, and the sun is shining. To add to that, Pirelli has gone cautious with the tire choice being unfamiliar with the track. So there's no point in even hoping bad tire wear in the race for Ferrari.
Yea and the Ferraris tyre degradations issues in race trim are all but gone tooEmag wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 16:30The track is honestly similar to Baku, but shorter. Yes, there's a lot of fast / medium corners, but the slow ones are brutal as well as they usually are followed by a straight. Ferrari should be more than decent here.
We have also had such bad luck lately. Austria seems like an eternity ago now.
Belgium seemingly suited McLaren a lot more than Ferrari, and the race doesn't even get going. We got only 3 points on Ferrari where it could have easily been 20+ (I must admit, it could have gone the other way around too, not guaranteed on mixed conditions).
Now here, where Ferrari is stronger, McLaren doesn't look too good, and the sun is shining. To add to that, Pirelli has gone cautious with the tire choice being unfamiliar with the track. So there's no point in even hoping bad tire wear in the race for Ferrari.
“Ferrari will… McLaren may….”CjC wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 19:50Yea and the Ferraris tyre degradations issues in race trim are all but gone tooEmag wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 16:30The track is honestly similar to Baku, but shorter. Yes, there's a lot of fast / medium corners, but the slow ones are brutal as well as they usually are followed by a straight. Ferrari should be more than decent here.
We have also had such bad luck lately. Austria seems like an eternity ago now.
Belgium seemingly suited McLaren a lot more than Ferrari, and the race doesn't even get going. We got only 3 points on Ferrari where it could have easily been 20+ (I must admit, it could have gone the other way around too, not guaranteed on mixed conditions).
Now here, where Ferrari is stronger, McLaren doesn't look too good, and the sun is shining. To add to that, Pirelli has gone cautious with the tire choice being unfamiliar with the track. So there's no point in even hoping bad tire wear in the race for Ferrari.
The weather in Spa has turned the battle for P3 well into Ferraris favour in my opinion.
Mclaren should have opened up a fair points gap on Ferrari at Spa in the wet or dry but it didn’t happen.
Ferrari look strong at Zandvoort so will jump ahead, Mclaren may salvage something at Monza but the Ferrari have a PU upgrade for the rest of the season which should make them regular podium contenders and leave Mclaren in no mans land in P4.
(Also I wouldn’t be surprised if Ferrari brought the PU upgrade to Monza their home race or at least one of their drivers races with it).
Do you not agree with my slightly pessimistic viewGround Effect wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 21:00“Ferrari will… McLaren may….”CjC wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 19:50Yea and the Ferraris tyre degradations issues in race trim are all but gone tooEmag wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 16:30The track is honestly similar to Baku, but shorter. Yes, there's a lot of fast / medium corners, but the slow ones are brutal as well as they usually are followed by a straight. Ferrari should be more than decent here.
We have also had such bad luck lately. Austria seems like an eternity ago now.
Belgium seemingly suited McLaren a lot more than Ferrari, and the race doesn't even get going. We got only 3 points on Ferrari where it could have easily been 20+ (I must admit, it could have gone the other way around too, not guaranteed on mixed conditions).
Now here, where Ferrari is stronger, McLaren doesn't look too good, and the sun is shining. To add to that, Pirelli has gone cautious with the tire choice being unfamiliar with the track. So there's no point in even hoping bad tire wear in the race for Ferrari.
The weather in Spa has turned the battle for P3 well into Ferraris favour in my opinion.
Mclaren should have opened up a fair points gap on Ferrari at Spa in the wet or dry but it didn’t happen.
Ferrari look strong at Zandvoort so will jump ahead, Mclaren may salvage something at Monza but the Ferrari have a PU upgrade for the rest of the season which should make them regular podium contenders and leave Mclaren in no mans land in P4.
(Also I wouldn’t be surprised if Ferrari brought the PU upgrade to Monza their home race or at least one of their drivers races with it).![]()
The way things have panned out, it’s probably the way to go…. There’s no better feeling than when you have low expectations, then BOOM! Lando puts it on row 2…CjC wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 21:13Do you not agree with my slightly pessimistic viewGround Effect wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 21:00“Ferrari will… McLaren may….”CjC wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 19:50
Yea and the Ferraris tyre degradations issues in race trim are all but gone too
The weather in Spa has turned the battle for P3 well into Ferraris favour in my opinion.
Mclaren should have opened up a fair points gap on Ferrari at Spa in the wet or dry but it didn’t happen.
Ferrari look strong at Zandvoort so will jump ahead, Mclaren may salvage something at Monza but the Ferrari have a PU upgrade for the rest of the season which should make them regular podium contenders and leave Mclaren in no mans land in P4.
(Also I wouldn’t be surprised if Ferrari brought the PU upgrade to Monza their home race or at least one of their drivers races with it).![]()
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