2021 AMG Mercedes F1 Team

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restless wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 10:34
zibby43 wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 20:57
Apparently, the ICE Lewis is taking is a new spec that Merc has been developing all season, which is why Bottas had been taking so many units.
iirc they can't introduce "new spec" ICE.
They can if it was the first new spec of the season, no?

Ferrari just did something similar.

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zibby43 wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 09:46
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13 Nov 2021, 00:23
atanatizante wrote:
12 Nov 2021, 22:14
It seems that here they retained HAM`s RW that both drivers were running at Mexico race, compared to RB which runs here a spoon RW for a better top speed ... nevertheless even on these conditions, HAM was 6km/h faster on top speed trap due to the new ICE ...
Or, so it seems now, the new Ice is not as magical as it seemed but they opened the DRS too far. Let’s see what the verdict is.
A few mm on the DRS isn’t going to give 4 tenths. :lol:

In fact, as Scarbs pointed out, it can induce drag.

Regardless, if it’s out of spec, it’s out of spec. Unless Max did it when breaking the ISC.

Let’s see what the verdict is.
It could get his time deleted so he'll end at the back. Unless Mercedes can prove it was caused by damage.

I heard Max is also being summoned allegedly for touch Lewis' car. There's footage of him fiddling with Lewis' RW. That might be the card that gets Lewis through but I doubt it.

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Hamilton really managed to tame the beast on this lap, on the instances where it was complaining, with minimal loss of time (if at all). I'd say that's an A+ effort.
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e30ernest wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 10:45
It could get his time deleted so he'll end at the back. Unless Mercedes can prove it was caused by damage.

I heard Max is also being summoned allegedly for touch Lewis' car. There's footage of him fiddling with Lewis' RW. That might be the card that gets Lewis through but I doubt it.
If FIA clears Hamilton for someone touching the car, it will be end of the season, cause it will be obvious FIA is going to do everything in order to promote first 8-th time GOAT.

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restless wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 13:38
e30ernest wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 10:45
It could get his time deleted so he'll end at the back. Unless Mercedes can prove it was caused by damage.

I heard Max is also being summoned allegedly for touch Lewis' car. There's footage of him fiddling with Lewis' RW. That might be the card that gets Lewis through but I doubt it.
If FIA clears Hamilton for someone touching the car, it will be end of the season, cause it will be obvious FIA is going to do everything in order to promote first 8-th time GOAT.
More likely they want to keep the championship fight alive until the final race, cos that's good for viewing figures. They probably also want to avoid having the Stewards effectively decide the WDC. Especially given the fan responses to Silverstone and Monza.
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Well thanks to Max inexperience Merc can get off the hook because he was fiddling with the car.
If Hamilton does not get off then Max should not and both i fringements carry a penalty. Max might even be worse as that's a black and white rule.
In Lewis case he can argue Max sabotaged his car or it was damaged because they can compare to Bottas car that has the same parts.
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If Lewis goes to back for infringement could he take yet another engine or must he race the last new one first.

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Mezger wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 15:41
If Lewis goes to back for infringement could he take yet another engine or must he race the last new one first.
What I'm saying is could he use this penalty as a way to increase his engine allocation ?

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Yeah fit a whole powerunit, but loose the new ICE they took, this weekend.

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Mezger wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 15:42
Mezger wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 15:41
If Lewis goes to back for infringement could he take yet another engine or must he race the last new one first.
What I'm saying is could he use this penalty as a way to increase his engine allocation ?

no you can only take one new component per race weekend. the one fitted yesterday would be excluded if he took a new one today!
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dans79 wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 16:18
Mezger wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 15:42
Mezger wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 15:41
If Lewis goes to back for infringement could he take yet another engine or must he race the last new one first.
What I'm saying is could he use this penalty as a way to increase his engine allocation ?

no you can only take one new component per race weekend. the one fitted yesterday would be excluded if he took a new one today!
Thanks a lot. If Max goes to the back then they may as well put a new lump in his car.

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Can Hamilton now get all the PU components ?
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Shrieker wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 19:59
Can Hamilton now get all the PU components ?
That would consign him to the back of the grid for the race as well. It depends on how confident he and Mercedes are in their ability to recover to a decent position even with the looming 5 place grid drop.

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Vaexa wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 20:02
Shrieker wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 19:59
Can Hamilton now get all the PU components ?
That would consign him to the back of the grid for the race as well. It depends on how confident he and Mercedes are in their ability to recover to a decent position even with the looming 5 place grid drop.
I mean, even if he did recover to say - 5th (which I find rather far fetched), he'd start the race in 10th. On a second thought, that would actually be alright. but if he ends up in 8th-9th in the sprint, I guess it's better to take an entirely new PU, and start from the back, instead of in 13th-14th.
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