2023 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 03 - 05

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Mogster wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 11:34
Chuckjr wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 08:46
LHamilton wrote:
04 Nov 2023, 21:55
If sprint races are here to stay, I dont think we will see to much more of Verstappen in F1. He seems to be very critical of it and has said that he would race something else in the future. If he isnt satisfied with the race format, he might go to other series sooner rather than later. Series that doesnt have that "show-before-race" factor to it that F1 is venturing into now with sprints. Would be quite damning for F1 if Verstappen would walk sooner than his 2028 contract.
Lol. Not.
As long as Max is winning he will stay. All the talk of leaving is just that — talk. F1 drivers are all highly addicted to winning, and if they can win every weekend, they won’t walk away from that fix. Furthermore, records help make a driver timeless, and the more records Max can set/break, the more timeless he will become. He is well aware of this. This is once in a lifetime stuff, and rest assured, Max will ride that wave for all its worth.
Winning in a sport like F1 can take a lot of effort, even in a dominant car. Ask Rosberg. I’m not sure how much prep Verstappen needs, Rosberg suggested he had to be pouring over data for days between races and spending hours in the sim to even take the fight to Hamilton, Hamilton would just turn up almost. Kirkwood has said the same about being Herta’s teammate in Indycar. Maybe Verstappen can just turn up, I’ve never heard any detail about that aspect of his driving. I’d like to know.

So the question is does Max have the motivation to beat Hamilton’s records? Does he have the motivation to keep going for another 5 seasons at this level?That’s assuming he was the equipment of course, 2026 and the RBPT engine will be the next big shakeup. By 2025 he would be be a 5x WDC. From there 8 looks doable, only 3 more, he’d only be 32…?
I think he has the motivation of simply loving racing (and winning). He definitely hasn't exerted himself this season, nothing compared to 2021 and I don't think he'll ever have a championship as crazy as that again. He wants to do other forms of racing like sportscars, wec etc, whether RB can work that into his contract to also keep him in F1, who knows?

I don't think he cares about Hamilton/Schumacher records right now, but assuming he wins the next 2 WDCs, which is very likely, then only three more would be required as you say. He's contracted till 2028, assuming he wins everything till the end of that contract, it would take him to 8 WDCs, therefore a potentially obvious retirement afterwards.

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Max is simply performing the same act as Lewis was when he was winning championships. Every weekend he used to talk of retirement to keep the buzz around him. He continues to sign deals and my guess is, he would most certainly drive another 5 years atleast, whether he wins the championship or not. That's the lure of limelight and money. It won't be any different for Max either. Nobody would pay 50 million a year for someone that is retired. It's too much money even for most successful sportspersons to be left on the table. :D

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Realistically, what are the chances of Max not winning it today ?

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Spoutnik wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 12:34
Realistically, what are the chances of Max not winning it today ?
Not too low. There is a decent chance of 1st corner carnage here. This time he is on the worse side and has Stroll behind. If he survives 1st corner he will win.
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You can’t even say that, it is motor racing, we saw just last week how different the result can be from Saturday to Sunday. I am ofcourse expecting Max to win too but red flags, crashes, technical issues etc are always close.

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When RBR let him loose Max’s pace was ridiculous compared to the rest of the field. The only chance of him not winning is a random mechanical DNF or contact.

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Tyre allocation for Lewis doesnt look overly good? 1 new medium and 2 with 5 and 6laps on them.

Expecting most to do a S-M-S id dare say.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 13:43
Tyre allocation for Lewis doesnt look overly good? 1 new medium and 2 with 5 and 6laps on them.

Expecting most to do a S-M-S id dare say.
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basti313 wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 12:36
Spoutnik wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 12:34
Realistically, what are the chances of Max not winning it today ?
Not too low. There is a decent chance of 1st corner carnage here. This time he is on the worse side and has Stroll behind. If he survives 1st corner he will win.
If it was any other driver on pole then yeah. But stroll or leclerc is going to wave him by at turn one. I can almost guarantee it. Everyone on the grid does for some reason. The only person who I’ve seen doesn’t back out from max at turn one is George Russell.

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Wouter wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 13:47
chrisc90 wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 13:43
Tyre allocation for Lewis doesnt look overly good? 1 new medium and 2 with 5 and 6laps on them.

Expecting most to do a S-M-S id dare say.
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Nice accent. :)

If Pirelli looking for someone to give them a hand alongside race weekends.....i'll help them. :lol:
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chrisc90 wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 13:54
Wouter wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 13:47
chrisc90 wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 13:43
Tyre allocation for Lewis doesnt look overly good? 1 new medium and 2 with 5 and 6laps on them.

Expecting most to do a S-M-S id dare say.
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Nice accent. :)
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If Pirelli looking for someone to give them a hand alongside race weekends.....i'll help them. :lol:
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Well, they could use it. They are mostly wrong. :lol: But I like the accent. :)
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Analysis of Oco-Alo SQ incident


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So everyone will start on soft today?

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organic wrote:
05 Nov 2023, 15:51
Analysis of Oco-Alo SQ incident

It’s interesting, the previous car lost the rear in exactly the same way as Ocon. Nando was steering hard left at the point of impact, his wheel was at 90° almost. Just one of those things.