2023 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 03 - 05

[AR3-GP]

Decent sprint, but as has been said, the story looks to have been told. Sunday drive for Max.

There's still hope. RB could "fix" Max's brakes again...

[Mogster]

If sprint races are here to stay, I dont think we will see to much more of Verstappen in F1. He seems to be very critical of it and has said that he would race something else in the future. If he isnt satisfied with the race format, he might go to other series sooner rather than later. Series that doesnt have that "show-before-race" factor to it that F1 is venturing into now with sprints. Would be quite damning for F1 if Verstappen would walk sooner than his 2028 contract.

If Max does leave F1 then like Schumacher and Alonso he’ll probably find there’s nothing else like it outside.

At least he might return with a smile and renewed enjoyment of the sport like MS and Alonso did.

[AR3-GP]

I think Max threatening to leave F1 is the same as fans threatening to stop watching F1 for the last 20 years. There's no intention to follow through. It's just how we attempt to exert influence over a situation.

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Good chart

[Sieper]

Max waited quite long until he went harder through the fast corners and during that time the gap that Norris was reducing suddenly became bigger twice. Max suspected lock ups by Norris in his post race interview. GP had instructed Max (in covered terms, just informing Max via corner number call outs where Norris was gaining, all the high speeds) that he could increase the speed in the high speed corners already 3 laps earlier then when Max finally came on the radio to press the issue. To me it seems they can still improve the communication by quite some margin. Norris almost made it back in to DRS.

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there are some interesting information in the new AMuS article. According to that, both Ferrari and Mercedes are running higher than usual to be on the safe side after the Austin DSQ. For Mercedes this leads to balancing issues, and consequently higher tire wear. Key problem for both Mercedes were the first lap battles though, as the softs need a gentle start for better durability.

Unfortunately, there seem to be mistakes on daily base now in those article. Yesterday they claimed that both RB saved Softs by using only one set in Q1 (they didn't), today the article says that Norris had a tire advantage because he used an almost new set from FP1 - where he in fact didn't touch the softs at all.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Merc going conservative on the ride height is hurting them here. The suggestion that the ride heights they ran at Austin didn't give them anything on the performance side seem doubly daft now

Ferrari seemed to be fine with balance and pace. They just had to manage constantly the temps due to cooling mistake

[CHT]

I wouldn't be surprised if Merc going conservative on the ride height is hurting them here. The suggestion that the ride heights they ran at Austin didn't give them anything on the performance side seem doubly daft now

Ferrari seemed to be fine with balance and pace. They just had to manage constantly the temps due to cooling mistake

Merc's current setup may have very small operating windows and any change in wind direction and air temperature will throw them off course.

[lucafo]

I wouldn't be surprised if Merc going conservative on the ride height is hurting them here. The suggestion that the ride heights they ran at Austin didn't give them anything on the performance side seem doubly daft now

Ferrari seemed to be fine with balance and pace. They just had to manage constantly the temps due to cooling mistake

I will be very cooler tomorrow...

[Chuckjr]

If sprint races are here to stay, I dont think we will see to much more of Verstappen in F1. He seems to be very critical of it and has said that he would race something else in the future. If he isnt satisfied with the race format, he might go to other series sooner rather than later. Series that doesnt have that "show-before-race" factor to it that F1 is venturing into now with sprints. Would be quite damning for F1 if Verstappen would walk sooner than his 2028 contract.

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As long as Max is winning he will stay. All the talk of leaving is just that — talk. F1 drivers are all highly addicted to winning, and if they can win every weekend, they won’t walk away from that fix. Furthermore, records help make a driver timeless, and the more records Max can set/break, the more timeless he will become. He is well aware of this. This is once in a lifetime stuff, and rest assured, Max will ride that wave for all its worth.

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Tires left for the race:



There's nothing in the rules which explains why Alfa has less than others, but it was the same last week. I guess they just prefer to keep their garage tidy.

According to f1.com, the expected offset between S and M is 0.3s in the race, and 0.85s between M and H, leading to these possible strategies:


https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... nqcSK.html

[marcel171281]

Tires left for the race:

https://i.imgur.com/9AQXyfo.png

There's nothing in the rules which explains why Alfa has less than others, but it was the same last week. I guess they just prefer to keep their garage tidy.

According to f1.com, the expected offset between S and M is 0.3s in the race, and 0.85s between M and H, leading to these possible strategies:

https://media.formula1.com/image/upload ... /image.png
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... nqcSK.html

This, in comination with their deg, shows Mercedes have a serious problem for the race! Unless they go for hards (which is unlikely given the delta to the medium and soft), they only have one new tyre available for a 2 stop race and they have to use a medium which has done 2 pushlaps in qually....

[Sieper]

Mercedes will likely go much better on the harder compounds. Yellow-white one stopper.

[Mogster]

If sprint races are here to stay, I dont think we will see to much more of Verstappen in F1. He seems to be very critical of it and has said that he would race something else in the future. If he isnt satisfied with the race format, he might go to other series sooner rather than later. Series that doesnt have that "show-before-race" factor to it that F1 is venturing into now with sprints. Would be quite damning for F1 if Verstappen would walk sooner than his 2028 contract.

Lol. Not.
As long as Max is winning he will stay. All the talk of leaving is just that — talk. F1 drivers are all highly addicted to winning, and if they can win every weekend, they won’t walk away from that fix. Furthermore, records help make a driver timeless, and the more records Max can set/break, the more timeless he will become. He is well aware of this. This is once in a lifetime stuff, and rest assured, Max will ride that wave for all its worth.

Winning in a sport like F1 can take a lot of effort, even in a dominant car. Ask Rosberg. I’m not sure how much prep Verstappen needs, Rosberg suggested he had to be pouring over data for days between races and spending hours in the sim to even take the fight to Hamilton, Hamilton would just turn up almost. Kirkwood has said the same about being Herta’s teammate in Indycar. Maybe Verstappen can just turn up, I’ve never heard any detail about that aspect of his driving. I’d like to know.

So the question is does Max have the motivation to beat Hamilton’s records? Does he have the motivation to keep going for another 5 seasons at this level?That’s assuming he was the equipment of course, 2026 and the RBPT engine will be the next big shakeup. By 2025 he would be be a 5x WDC. From there 8 looks doable, only 3 more, he’d only be 32…?