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Jurgen von Diaz
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Since '22, Lewis stopped being the number one driver and has complained about the car and strategies. Verstappen's domination ended in the middle of the season, so today, as in many other races, Verstappen is complaining about the strategies, but nobody is talking about conspiracy theories when his strategies fail. George complained about tires in qualifying, but nobody noticed. However, when Lewis does it, all hell breaks loose.

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I could see why Russell and Lewis didnt do press today, this is George after getting out of his car. i assume same as today as it has been the case for last few gps that their seats were very hot due to the car scraping the ground


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djones wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 19:02
214270 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:53
Tvetovnato wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 18:35
Dear lord what a complete garbage dump this thread has become. Gets worse race by race. Unbelievable.

Is it forum traffic that is prioritized no matter what or what is it?
Exactly. On the Ferrari & Rb threads they have good amateur data analysts & “experts” who contribute regularly & sort of up the contributing standards, in the Merc we’ve got some of the dumbest musings anywhere on this forum. It’s a problem
Very easy to understand….

It’s because Hamilton has a lot of haters. More haters than most of the very top drivers have supporters.

So what happens is they come on the Merc thread just to find negative things to say, masquerading as George supporters.
Yes it's impossible that George has supporters. Can't be that weird accusations of sabotage by LH fans just screw up any chance of serious discourse.

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I think the problem with the idea that those particular posters are GR fans becomes clear if you compare their posts with fans of Bottas when he was at Mercedes. Very few (if any) of those posts were along the lines of. "I'm a long time Hamilton fan but he's literally the worst driver in the sport and should be put out to pasture before he embarrasses himself any more. He's pathetic, only ever won a grand prix because the rest of the grid let him win and he's also the worst. Oh, and I guess Bottas exists or something."

As an aside, comparing the pace of both Mercedes cars on the Hards is an interesting errand. I'm just guessing, but perhaps one of them had to overtake some cars? But it's interesting that 'George fans' apparently expect their driver to be slower in clean air than the washed up pensioner is in dirty. Otherwise, it wouldn't be worthy of comment.

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Wynters wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:38
I think the problem with the idea that those particular posters are GR fans becomes clear if you compare their posts with fans of Bottas when he was at Mercedes. Very few (if any) of those posts were along the lines of. "I'm a long time Hamilton fan but he's literally the worst driver in the sport and should be put out to pasture before he embarrasses himself any more. He's pathetic, only ever won a grand prix because the rest of the grid let him win and he's also the worst. Oh, and I guess Bottas exists or something."

As an aside, comparing the pace of both Mercedes cars on the Hards is an interesting errand. I'm just guessing, but perhaps one of them had to overtake some cars? But it's interesting that 'George fans' apparently expect their driver to be slower in clean air than the washed up pensioner is in dirty. Otherwise, it wouldn't be worthy of comment.
Hamilton didn't come out in traffic, he was over 3 secs behind the car ahead when he boxed and only had two cars to clear, one in which he bottled the move. It's amazing that you are trying to defend him when a certified undercut became a 5.5 overcut loss to his teammate.

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So he did have to overtake cars?

Honestly, you are just proving my point. :lol:
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Luscion wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 19:45
I could see why Russell and Lewis didnt do press today, this is George after getting out of his car. i assume same as today as it has been the case for last few gps that their seats were very hot due to the car scraping the ground

Ive seen a 50k fine for touching 1 car before. Thats a 100k there :lol:

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Wynters wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:45
So he did have to overtake cars?
Two, it must take an effort of epic proportions to pass two backmarkers when you've just put on new rubber.

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DRS wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:48
Wynters wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:45
So he did have to overtake cars?
Two, it must take an effort of epic proportions to pass two backmarkers when you've just put on new rubber.
Account created a week ago and your entire feed is bashing Lewis and calling him a fool while praising Max and Russel, despite describing yourself as a "big Lewis fan". Troll

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KimiRai wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:50
DRS wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:48
Wynters wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:45
So he did have to overtake cars?
Two, it must take an effort of epic proportions to pass two backmarkers when you've just put on new rubber.
Account created a week ago and your entire feed is bashing Lewis and calling him a fool while praising Max and Russel, despite describing yourself as a "big Lewis fan". Troll
I'm not getting into the Lewis v George stuff but its very obvious the people who jump in here to just hate on a driver, their contributions to this thread are being negative to one driver and nothing else
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chrisc90 wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:46
Luscion wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 19:45
I could see why Russell and Lewis didnt do press today, this is George after getting out of his car. i assume same as today as it has been the case for last few gps that their seats were very hot due to the car scraping the ground

Ive seen a 50k fine for touching 1 car before. Thats a 100k there :lol:
:lol: :lol:

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DRS wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:48
Wynters wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:45
So he did have to overtake cars?
Two, it must take an effort of epic proportions to pass two backmarkers when you've just put on new rubber.
So you do think that Russell is so bad that Hamilton should be faster than him while overtaking cars on a streetcircuit than in clear air? That's a bold take, Cotton.

Also, I can't be bothered scrolling back through the main feed but the race highlights suggest that the gap on lap 30 was only 4.6 seconds, not the 5.5 you so authoritativly claim. Are you just making up numbers or was Hamilton a second faster than Russell, on already dying old Hards?

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Luscion wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:52
KimiRai wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:50
DRS wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:48


Two, it must take an effort of epic proportions to pass two backmarkers when you've just put on new rubber.
Account created a week ago and your entire feed is bashing Lewis and calling him a fool while praising Max and Russel, despite describing yourself as a "big Lewis fan". Troll
I'm not getting into the Lewis v George stuff but its very obvious the people who jump in here to just hate on a driver, their contributions to this thread are being negative to one driver and nothing else
I'm always curious about the motivation. It's clear Russell has the chops to be a WDC and Hamilton being relatively strong competition is only good for Russel as beating him actually means something (see Verstappen for the downside of only beating paperweights). So it can't be that they are Russell fans. So, are they Verstappen fans still burning years after the FIA had to rig the WDC so their man could win? Do they hate 'upstarts' from a relatively poor background (there ismoften a ven overlap in their views about Ocon)? Or is there something they might dislike thats unique to Hamilton amongst all the other drivers? It's curious.

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Wynters wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:57
DRS wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:48
Wynters wrote:
22 Sep 2024, 20:45
So he did have to overtake cars?
Two, it must take an effort of epic proportions to pass two backmarkers when you've just put on new rubber.
So you do think that Russell is so bad that Hamilton should be faster than him while overtaking cars on a streetcircuit than in clear air? That's a bold take, Cotton.

Also, I can't be bothered scrolling back through the main feed but the race highlights suggest that the gap on lap 30 was only 4.6 seconds, not the 5.5 you so authoritativly claim. Are you just making up numbers or was Hamilton a second faster than Russell, on already dying old Hards?
My numbers are just fine, Hamilton had a two second gap to Russell when he boxed, when Russell boxed he came out 3.5 secs ahead of Hamilton, so he lost 5.5 secs to the overcut.