The team made the right move to follow the swap. I'm a bit surprised that McLaren is getting criticism for running their team in a principled manner that's fair to both drivers.
My only question is why Oscar waited so long so long to pit.
The reactions of Zac Brown have been well documented when it comes to Lando or Oscar winning. The difference is huge.geogate wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 23:28lol, they were trying to protect oscars 3rd place. If they were team GB they would be happy to hold oscar out until he undercut by Leclerc, presumably. I do scratch my head at this British team british driver thing. Which particular members of the team are doing all this, cos the ones i can think of who if they that way incline, maybe, possibly, might be able to bias something, they arnt even British - so, Who are these people?
He isnt British. Next one
I was waiting for Oscar to try the undercut and call for a pit himself around lap 42-43 for the softs, rather than the team deciding (including with Lando's blessing) that he should pit first to cover Leclerc. They both know the team is going to be fair to both of them, but on rare occasions like this, they don't seem to take that into account in their calculus.
but once it got that far into the race, Oscar couldnt choose to pit early as that would effectively be giving him the privilege of the lead driver. He dosnt get to have the choise of under cutting. The only way they can do that would be if they on completely different strategies, like he was 2 stoppingMYsee wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 00:25I was waiting for Oscar to try the undercut and call for a pit himself around lap 42-43 for the softs, rather than the team deciding (including with Lando's blessing) that he should pit first to cover Leclerc. They both know the team is going to be fair to both of them, but on rare occasions like this, they don't seem to take that into account in their calculus.
Similar issue with Lando last year in Hungary - the team allows them to race, but he waited till the very end of the race to give the position back to Oscar, rather than giving it back early and racing him for the last 15 or so laps that were left.
My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that if Oscar asked to pit Lando would simply be given the option to pit before him as the lead driver.geogate wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 00:32but once it got that far into the race, Oscar couldnt choose to pit early as that would effectively be giving him the privilege of the lead driver. He dosnt get to have the choise of under cutting. The only way they can do that would be if they on completely different strategies, like he was 2 stoppingMYsee wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 00:25I was waiting for Oscar to try the undercut and call for a pit himself around lap 42-43 for the softs, rather than the team deciding (including with Lando's blessing) that he should pit first to cover Leclerc. They both know the team is going to be fair to both of them, but on rare occasions like this, they don't seem to take that into account in their calculus.
Similar issue with Lando last year in Hungary - the team allows them to race, but he waited till the very end of the race to give the position back to Oscar, rather than giving it back early and racing him for the last 15 or so laps that were left.
Sure, Lando waiting until the end at hungary was an error. I dont know what was going through his mind that made him think that was a good idea
Zac Brown has known Lando since 2016, signing him as a McLaren junior in 2017. He has helped him develop into the driver he is today. There is emotional investment there that you simply don't get when you poach a driver from another team.Gothrek wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 00:20The reactions of Zac Brown have been well documented when it comes to Lando or Oscar winning. The difference is huge.geogate wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 23:28lol, they were trying to protect oscars 3rd place. If they were team GB they would be happy to hold oscar out until he undercut by Leclerc, presumably. I do scratch my head at this British team british driver thing. Which particular members of the team are doing all this, cos the ones i can think of who if they that way incline, maybe, possibly, might be able to bias something, they arnt even British - so, Who are these people?