2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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deadhead wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:16
Emag wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:11
It seems like Leclerc was derating at the end of some of the straights for most of the laps, suggesting a conservative engine mode. If you trust the telemetry though, adding up the losses of that derating at the end of the straights does not make up more than 2 tenths of laptime.
few other things to consider in this summary hear as well:

https://x.com/LrLucaruocco/status/1895141161045778560

Let's just say it will be much easier to be in McLaren's situation overall.

Let's see what VER can do with the RB tomorrow.
Also if we're looking at the final stint exclusively, pirelli have said the C2 is close to the C3 this year, and that it's performing very well this test
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deadhead wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:16
Emag wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:11
It seems like Leclerc was derating at the end of some of the straights for most of the laps, suggesting a conservative engine mode. If you trust the telemetry though, adding up the losses of that derating at the end of the straights does not make up more than 2 tenths of laptime.
few other things to consider in this summary hear as well:



Let's just say it will be much easier to be in McLaren's situation overall.

Let's see what VER can do with the RB tomorrow.
But Lando did 57 laps too no? A couple of sources have shared tables of the long runs where both add up to 57.
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I think McLaren have 3 to 4 tenths on Ferrari as it stands. Maybe even Red Bull but we have no reference.
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deadhead wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:16

few other things to consider in this summary hear as well:



Let's just say it will be much easier to be in McLaren's situation overall.

Let's see what VER can do with the RB tomorrow.
Seems like a lot of analysts are settling on 3 tenths being the actual difference.

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Emag wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:19
deadhead wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:16
Emag wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:11
It seems like Leclerc was derating at the end of some of the straights for most of the laps, suggesting a conservative engine mode. If you trust the telemetry though, adding up the losses of that derating at the end of the straights does not make up more than 2 tenths of laptime.
few other things to consider in this summary hear as well:



Let's just say it will be much easier to be in McLaren's situation overall.

Let's see what VER can do with the RB tomorrow.
But Lando did 57 laps too no? A couple of sources have shared tables of the long runs where both add up to 57.
That guy has to be wrong, unless people are inventing Lando lap times to add up to 57. I have definitely seen tables with Lando driving a 57 lap race sim.

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Can folks translate non-English tweets so we dont have to give Twitter any clicks ourselves, please?

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Cs98 wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:22
Emag wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:19
deadhead wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:16


few other things to consider in this summary hear as well:



Let's just say it will be much easier to be in McLaren's situation overall.

Let's see what VER can do with the RB tomorrow.
But Lando did 57 laps too no? A couple of sources have shared tables of the long runs where both add up to 57.
That guy has to be wrong, unless people are inventing Lando lap times to add up to 57. I have definitely seen tables with Lando driving a 57 lap race sim.
Yeah it's definitely 57 for both of them, just went and counted. Not sure where people are getting the 52 from. The difference is only in the engine mode at the moment, which I think it could explain up to 0.2s of the gap. Perhaps if we are being too "generous" I would push it to double that, but really, Leclerc doesn't lose time on acceleration, only at the end of the straights when the derating happens. So it's perhaps just an aggressive harvesting mode more so than a limiter on power delivery.
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Emag wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:25


Yeah it's definitely 57 for both of them, just went and counted. Not sure where people are getting the 52 from.
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Helmut Marko: “Ferrari look very competitive”. :D
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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:21
deadhead wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:16

few other things to consider in this summary hear as well:


Let's just say it will be much easier to be in McLaren's situation overall.

Let's see what VER can do with the RB tomorrow.
Seems like a lot of analysts are settling on 3 tenths being the actual difference.
Doubt that. The smoking gun for me is the middle stint where Leclerc was on a C2 and Lando was on a C1, and Lando was still 3 tenths quicker. The C1 is a much slower tyre than the C2 with no significant deg benefit in these cool conditions. For reference, Lando was 1,4s faster when he jumped from C1--->C2 in the final stint. Leclerc was only 0,6s faster when he went from C2--->C1 for his final stint. If we are being generous and giving Leclerc a couple of tenths in engine mode (Norris was definitely in race mode), I'd still put the gap at half a second. With it being closer early and farther late in the race.

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McLaren is in a league of its own. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors.

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Tonino wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:38
McLaren is in a league of its own. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors.
Agreed. Not unexpected though. It is what it is. I can’t knock Ferrari for the car though, certainly not conservative in their approach.

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Can anyone check the top speed? There is information that Charles had 7 km/h less than Lando and Sky Italia kind of claims that Charles was more loaded with fuel.
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yooogurt wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 19:47
Can anyone check the top speed? There is information that Charles had 7 km/h less than Lando and Sky Italia kind of claims that Charles was more loaded with fuel.
yes, it is true that Leclerc was 5-10 km slower than Norris on the straights during the entire race simulation, and even Antonella was also about 5 tenths slower than Norris on the first sector on average