ME4ME wrote: ↑27 Nov 2024, 20:00Personally I do not share the optimism regarding a "bounch back" on Red Bulls part.
If you track Leclerc vs Verstappen for example, on race day, and ignore wet-weather Brasil for a moment, you'd have to go back a long way to find that Verstappen in the RB20 actually had more performance.
Vegas Ferrari was quicker. Mexico and Austin, Ferrari was way quicker. Singapore, Leclerc shouldn've been a close P2 to Norris if they hadn't messed up. Monza, Red Bull was nowhere. Baku, i'd say slightly behind Ferrari.
Unless Red Bull make real gains to the order of several tenths per lap, Verstappen is at risk of falling behind Leclerc, Hamilton and Norris next year.
the 'bounce back' comment was strictly in comparison to mercedes
venkyhere wrote: ↑27 Nov 2024, 17:04... and more or less have brought back the car to 'drivable' levels, even if not 'optimal' level. The car is inherently poorer than the Mclaren and the Ferrari (with it's new floor), but unlike Mercedes, haven't gone to 'la la land of unpredicability' . So I think RBR have 'bounced back' much better in adversity, they didn't 'lose' more than half the season.