2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
Tvetovnato
Tvetovnato
1
Joined: 12 Mar 2021, 16:03

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

Hamilton looks like he is on rails from the onboards.. they seem to have found a great balance right away, no twitches in the slow corners even…

User avatar
AeroDynamic
349
Joined: 28 Sep 2021, 12:25
Location: La règle du jeu

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

Tvetovnato wrote:
08 Oct 2021, 11:15
Hamilton looks like he is on rails from the onboards.. they seem to have found a great balance right away, no twitches in the slow corners even…
in the first half of the season, RB was arriving on track quick out of the box. Since silverstone, Max has bemoaned understeer issues at a few of the tracks. Some speculate its the effect the RB is feeling from the new Pirelli's.

a theory: The new tyres has created a correlation issue between the RB simulator, and what goes on out on track. Maybe thats why the RB is struggling with understeer initially. obviously they struggled the most to fix it at Hungary.

Tvetovnato
Tvetovnato
1
Joined: 12 Mar 2021, 16:03

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

Early days, but in race trim Hamilton is crushing at the moment. Blitzing S2 lap after lap especially. Interesting..

User avatar
AeroDynamic
349
Joined: 28 Sep 2021, 12:25
Location: La règle du jeu

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

Tvetovnato wrote:
08 Oct 2021, 11:34
Early days, but in race trim Hamilton is crushing at the moment. Blitzing S2 lap after lap especially. Interesting..
AeroDynamic wrote:
04 Oct 2021, 12:15
ringo wrote:
04 Oct 2021, 00:51
AeroDynamic wrote:
03 Oct 2021, 20:25
Who will set which sectors purple in qualifying?
Hmm redbull sectors 1 and 2. Mercedes sector 3. Will 3 be enough to make up for 1 and 2?
W12 could be 0.2s a lap slower. A repeat of Zandvoort if Merc cannot make it up on the straights.

Wouldn’t the RB like the last corners in S3? I thought S2 was gonna be on for MCS with S1 and 3 for Red bull.
This is what I was thinking. But the Red Bull should be strong tomorrow just purely based on the fact that it activates its tyres better in cold - wet conditions.

User avatar
PlatinumZealot
558
Joined: 12 Jun 2008, 03:45

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

AeroDynamic wrote:
08 Oct 2021, 11:32
Tvetovnato wrote:
08 Oct 2021, 11:15
Hamilton looks like he is on rails from the onboards.. they seem to have found a great balance right away, no twitches in the slow corners even…
in the first half of the season, RB was arriving on track quick out of the box. Since silverstone, Max has bemoaned understeer issues at a few of the tracks. Some speculate its the effect the RB is feeling from the new Pirelli's.

a theory: The new tyres has created a correlation issue between the RB simulator, and what goes on out on track. Maybe thats why the RB is struggling with understeer initially. obviously they struggled the most to fix it at Hungary.
I would say Nope. These new rear tyrew have stiffer and more consistent sidewalls, which make it orders easier to understand in the wind tunnel. It's like moving from a floppy baseball bat to a rigid one, it's much easier to hit the ball.

I think the problem Max is facing is just setup. He drives the car in an unusual way, almost on the edge to get it that much faster. They way it is set up now, (maybe for low rear grip?) he feels he cannot drive it the way he needs. He will be back strong in FP2.
🖐️✌️☝️👀👌✍️🐎🏆🙏

Racing Green in 2028

User avatar
InsaneX_Badger
2
Joined: 04 Mar 2021, 16:03

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

Ferrari are looking good in FP2. Practice bluffing or actually in this weekend?

basti313
basti313
28
Joined: 22 Feb 2014, 14:49

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

InsaneX_Badger wrote:
08 Oct 2021, 14:36
Ferrari are looking good in FP2. Practice bluffing or actually in this weekend?
Low grip track. Like in Azer or Russia. Not surprising that they are strong.
Don`t russel the hamster!

User avatar
nzjrs
60
Joined: 07 Jan 2015, 11:21
Location: Redacted

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

I'm not able to watch the FPs today, is anyone following onboard radio of Max and Lewis? How's the balance?

Bill_Kar
Bill_Kar
1
Joined: 02 Apr 2017, 09:38

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

nzjrs wrote:
08 Oct 2021, 14:43
I'm not able to watch the FPs today, is anyone following onboard radio of Max and Lewis? How's the balance?
Well, Verstappen definitely doesn't sound happy with the balance.

Hamilton reported early issues with front tyres during his first outing, but it seems like with a couple of twists of the front wing, he managed to overcome the issue.

User avatar
nzjrs
60
Joined: 07 Jan 2015, 11:21
Location: Redacted

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

Cool, thanks a lot Bill!

User avatar
InsaneX_Badger
2
Joined: 04 Mar 2021, 16:03

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

nzjrs wrote:
08 Oct 2021, 14:54
Cool, thanks a lot Bill!
Also Merc and Ferrari race pace seems the same too so far. Red bull a little behind but I'm sure they will sort the balance out by tomorrow.

User avatar
El Scorchio
20
Joined: 29 Jul 2019, 12:41

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

This qualifying prediction is so stupid. As if Verstappen will be anywhere near as low as tenth position when we get to the business end of qualifying.
I can't believe the commentary team is even talking about it as a serious possibility.

User avatar
search
0
Joined: 19 Jul 2014, 21:20

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

basti313 wrote:
08 Oct 2021, 14:42
InsaneX_Badger wrote:
08 Oct 2021, 14:36
Ferrari are looking good in FP2. Practice bluffing or actually in this weekend?
Low grip track. Like in Azer or Russia. Not surprising that they are strong.
engines (+engine modes, of course) may have an influence as well though, of course. Some are likely to be out on very old Friday engines today, while Ferrari and Hamilton are using the new ones.

Bill_Kar
Bill_Kar
1
Joined: 02 Apr 2017, 09:38

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

As things stand now, I think Mercedes & Ferrari are a bit ahead of Red Bull, both in Q sim as well as R sim.

If today's takeaways translate on Sunday, i.e. Bottas and/or Leclerc sneak ahead of Verstappen, I think Hamilton is on the right track minimizing the impact of the penalty.

But we're gonna see, it's too early.

User avatar
ringo
230
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 10:57

Re: 2021 Turkish Grand Prix - Istanbul Park, Oct 08 - 10

Post

Redbull just need to tune the setup a bit.
I notice the wing seems slim. Theyre trying to make ground on the back straight.
Hamilton's experience here is paying him dividends. I think he and Vettel and Alonso are the only ones who have raced here at full tilt?
Redbull's understeer is interesting, what are they doing to cause that? take off too much front wing, or front tyres have less temps than the rear?
For Sure!!