2021 United States Grand Prix - Austin, Oct 22 - 24

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Re: 2021 United States Grand Prix - Austin, Oct 22 - 24

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Tbh I'm glad that's the case, as then it means the two teams are much closer, and it will stop those saying that Merc have a much faster car.

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Mezger wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:15
Why is the track so bumpy ?

It's quite a new circuit so is it the ground settling ?
Subsurface clays and an owner that gave up on the entire re-design to divert shallow groundwater around the clay, causes heaving and settling issues.

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It seems to be just as close as it has been all season. The suggestions of a "Merc advantage" before the weekend appear to have just been hype and build up to ensure there was plenty of interested generated for this weekend's race.

If I was a betting person I'd put my money on a Verstappen pole position.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:20
Mezger wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:15
Why is the track so bumpy ?

It's quite a new circuit so is it the ground settling ?
Subsurface clays and an owner that gave up on the entire re-design to divert shallow groundwater around the clay, causes heaving and settling issues.
Thanks for the quick reply 👍

I thought it might be something like that. Cheers

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Starkblood80 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:01
zibby43 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 22:52
Hoffman900 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 22:51
It’s annoying even for a mostly impartial fan of the sport (go Mclaren!).

Like get over it.
He’s becoming a caricature of himself lol.
Button seems to constantly contradict him
too which is quite funny to hear.
Button actually sounded quite annoyed with him by the end of the session. Which I fully understand.

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Mezger wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:28
Hoffman900 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:20
Mezger wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:15
Why is the track so bumpy ?

It's quite a new circuit so is it the ground settling ?
Subsurface clays and an owner that gave up on the entire re-design to divert shallow groundwater around the clay, causes heaving and settling issues.
Thanks for the quick reply 👍

I thought it might be something like that. Cheers
It’s a problem for Dep. Of Transportations in that part and other parts of the country. Just traffic isn’t going 180mph for it to matter as much in terms of discomfort.

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El Scorchio wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:29
Starkblood80 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:01
zibby43 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 22:52


He’s becoming a caricature of himself lol.
Button seems to constantly contradict him
too which is quite funny to hear.
Button actually sounded quite annoyed with him by the end of the session. Which I fully understand.
Lol, yeah he did.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:30
Mezger wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:28
Hoffman900 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:20


Subsurface clays and an owner that gave up on the entire re-design to divert shallow groundwater around the clay, causes heaving and settling issues.
Thanks for the quick reply 👍

I thought it might be something like that. Cheers
It’s a problem for Dep. Of Transportations in that part and other parts of the country. Just traffic isn’t going 180mph for it to matter as much in terms of discomfort.
I know what you mean. Years ago I was a passenger in a friend's M3 going into Schiphol tunnel from Amsterdam doing about 140mph, I'd never felt the bump I did that day any time before. It wasn't pleasant let me tell you.

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Can someone do a Netflix edit of this? :lol:

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Looks close, back to regularly scheduled programming. The bumps make things interesting, like Button said, the track is a true bucking bronco.
Saishū kōnā

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As interesting as watching flexible rear wing videos.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... de_height/

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Hoffman900 wrote:
23 Oct 2021, 00:00
Can someone do a Netflix edit of this? :lol:
Easy: Max dawdles behind someone, Hamilton locks up and then goes up the inside to avoid contact, Max then goes all "how dare you!!!!".

Netflix now owes me $many. :lol:
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Mezger wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:44
Hoffman900 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:30
Mezger wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 23:28


Thanks for the quick reply 👍

I thought it might be something like that. Cheers
It’s a problem for Dep. Of Transportations in that part and other parts of the country. Just traffic isn’t going 180mph for it to matter as much in terms of discomfort.
I know what you mean. Years ago I was a passenger in a friend's M3 going into Schiphol tunnel from Amsterdam doing about 140mph, I'd never felt the bump I did that day any time before. It wasn't pleasant let me tell you.
I walked around Silverstone with Justin Wilson. Looking at Maggots, he says "there's a nasty bump here". "Where? It's flat, surely", "Trust me, at 180mph, this ripple feels like a speed hump".

And that's the reality of "they're complaining about the bumps" from so-called fans compared to what the drivers experience on track.

Road vs track. 8)
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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When I saw the Max onboard I thought it was Lewis playing games.

Seeing the Lewis onboard, however, he comes at the two at such a pace that jumping in front was the normal move to make. I don't think he was playing in games at all he was just on a different testing strategy and going a lot faster.

After he did that though it's Max who responds and decides to come back obviously affected in some way by it. I'd like to say Hamilton is intentionally getting into his head but TBH this one is all on Max and it shows a bit of fragility which is understandable.

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zibby43 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 20:59
AeroDynamic wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 20:36
zibby43 wrote:
22 Oct 2021, 20:30


What did Paul show that’s not a part of every single F1 car in the paddock this year and in recent history?

Suspension squat from aero load on the straight. It’s becoming more pronounced on the Merc now that they’ve increased the rake.

This “phenomenon” is easily observable on every car in the paddock.
its not an invention, but the point was Mercedes are extracting more from doing it better

can you explain why you think it can't be that? you think its the engine? What Brundle said undermines that idea.
I dunno, the Ferrari looks pretty good at it in Turkey:

https://twitter.com/mickeyymedia/status ... 21827?s=21
So just to confirm, Gary Anderson doesn’t know what he’s talking about either? :lol:

https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-and ... ion-trick/