Mercedes Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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smilodon wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 02:17
I think the problem is the fuel.
I know the engines are locked.... But can they improve the fuel? Maybe it can bring some extra power to Mercedes
Lets see what the race brings, it might be that Merc prioritised efficiency over performance like they have for a while. Better mileage could play out in race with these heavier car.

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I‘m not sure if it‘s the fuel because the customer teams are not using Petronas fuel. The the fact that Mercedes had to adapt the engine to E10 fuel but not the fuel itself I think.

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smilodon wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 02:17
I think the problem is the fuel.
I know the engines are locked.... But can they improve the fuel? Maybe it can bring some extra power to Mercedes
Fuel and engine oil has been homologated as well. But MGU-K, ES and CE can still be developed until September.

1st of March 2022: ICE, TC, MGU-H, fuel and engine oil

1st of September 2022: MGU-K, ES and CE

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How long until costumers teams start to complain about this slow engine already homologated?
At the end of the day they have to save their own sponsors

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McMika98 wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 19:46
RIP Mercedes engine, how the tables have turned, from being miles ahead to now a laughing stock of a GP2 engine.

Guess they lost a lot of talent and expertise.
Hardly. There is still benefits to being both an engine and chassis manufacturer, as far as the factory team goes. No Merc engine failures yet, and we don't know how reliable the Ferrari PU will be. We'll see. By season's end the 'slow' engine might still be the one to have. RB would have benefited from it today, it seems. As with the prev 8 seasons. We don't know if Ferrari are having their cake and eating it to. If they turn out to be reliable through the year, then yes.
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Got to consider the cars at the back of the pack were merc engine customers!
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I posted this elsewhere but anyone else seen the AMUS article on the fuel pumps?
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... s/i1ff19q/

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Who'd still prefer to have a Honda Engine instead of a Mercedes Engine now?

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It's from their live coverage at 15:49

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Some of Mercedes' engine customers have suggested that the new power unit from the German manufacturer isn't quite as powerful as they'd like.
https://racingnews365.com/mercedes-cust ... ver-engine
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wogx wrote:
21 Mar 2022, 23:30
Some of Mercedes' engine customers have suggested that the new power unit from the German manufacturer isn't quite as powerful as they'd like.
https://racingnews365.com/mercedes-cust ... ver-engine
They should indeed voice their concerns. I find it quite odd that Merc's engine 'seems' to be worst or second worst this year. Does it just really hate ethanol?
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wogx wrote:
21 Mar 2022, 23:30
Some of Mercedes' engine customers have suggested that the new power unit from the German manufacturer isn't quite as powerful as they'd like.
https://racingnews365.com/mercedes-cust ... ver-engine
I didn't find any direct quote from Merc customers in that article
Its just speculations / click bait

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chrisc90 wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 19:55
Got to consider the cars at the back of the pack were merc engine customers!
2018 Bahrain also had Merc customers at the back of the pack except for Ocon
2019 Bahrain also had Merc customers at the back of the pack
2020 Bahrain also had Merc customers at the back of the pack except for Perez.

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siskue2005 wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 00:06
chrisc90 wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 19:55
Got to consider the cars at the back of the pack were merc engine customers!
2019 Bahrain also had Merc customers at the back of the pack
A hastily modified 2018 Racing Point that was terrible until it was replaced by a B spec car at mid-season and an abysmal Williams that was miles off the pace all year. Hardly the same circumstance

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RonMexico wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 00:12
siskue2005 wrote:
22 Mar 2022, 00:06
chrisc90 wrote:
20 Mar 2022, 19:55
Got to consider the cars at the back of the pack were merc engine customers!
2019 Bahrain also had Merc customers at the back of the pack
A hastily modified 2018 Racing Point that was terrible until it was replaced by a B spec car at mid-season and an abysmal Williams that was miles off the pace all year. Hardly the same circumstance
Cant that be the same scenario now?
Horrible brake problems for Mclaren, poorly designed AM, always at the back Williams?