McLaren MCL36

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CjC wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 23:12
SmallSoldier wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 23:40
CjC wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 23:17


Yea I can see that. I just feel they are asking too much of the air to be effective with this solution. Maybe the other teams think the same as well considering they are using that area for the throat
Well, other teams are using that area for other purposes, for example Red Bull / Ferrari have a wider T-Tray area to house electronics and t-tray dampener in there… the effective area of the Tunnel entrance should be the same or fairly similar.
I see. So is the there a maximum size for the throat of the the floor?
Yes, I think it's limited. I suspect the reason why the openings and the "bargeboards" look bigger at the likes of RedBull is because they might have pushed the entrance backwards a bit, sacrificing some tunnel length to give them more real estate with the bodywork near the entrance to the tunnels.

Whereas teams like McLaren and Ferrari have gone for maximum tunnel length with much less to play with in terms of bodywork at that area.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 11:57
If Norris comments about 100 pts of downforce are correct, that's a lot. And surely comes mostly from the floor, since wings can only do so much on their own. Their floor sealing looked to be decent, but that doesn't tell us anything about the actual geometry underneath...

Sidepods can only do so much, once everything else is as it should be, so they can't be the reason, not even close. Also, having that big of a deficit is surely related to actual downforce requirements set for the launch spec. You can't go high enough if you don't aim high enough...
Roughly speaking, 100pts equate to over three seconds, so one has to assume that Lando is being slightly sarcastic. Can’t blame him to be honest. But it’s a slight over reaction

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PhillipM wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 13:49
vorticism wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 03:52
That pushrod is interdimensional.
Mclaren got their time-space suspension theory wrong and their pushrods don't connect in the middle. That's why they're so slow. You heard it here first.
Yes, PhillipM is completely having a laugh.
There’s nothing wrong with the suspension. It’s lack of CLT. Simple as that.

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Motörhead wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 23:29
Roughly speaking, 100pts equate to over three seconds, so one has to assume that Lando is being slightly sarcastic. Can’t blame him to be honest. But it’s a slight over reaction
3s is a bit too much, its closer to 1-1.5s as far as I know.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Big Tea wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 14:48
PhillipM wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 14:36
DiogoBrand wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 14:21
At least this probably means soon enough they'll be able to go back in time and fix it.
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CjC wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 23:12
SmallSoldier wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 23:40
CjC wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 23:17


Yea I can see that. I just feel they are asking too much of the air to be effective with this solution. Maybe the other teams think the same as well considering they are using that area for the throat
Well, other teams are using that area for other purposes, for example Red Bull / Ferrari have a wider T-Tray area to house electronics and t-tray dampener in there… the effective area of the Tunnel entrance should be the same or fairly similar.
I see. So is the there a maximum size for the throat of the the floor?
Yes, but what McLaren seem to be doing is taking the keel to a minimum (physically) but using the legality box for the keel to create a channel/duct to move air from the tea tray to the top surface of the floor. This also gives them, in effect, another underfloor strake for free!!
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Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 07:12
Motörhead wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 23:29
Roughly speaking, 100pts equate to over three seconds, so one has to assume that Lando is being slightly sarcastic. Can’t blame him to be honest. But it’s a slight over reaction
3s is a bit too much, its closer to 1-1.5s as far as I know.
Take it from me, it’s roughly 30 pts CLT per second.

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Motörhead wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 12:21
Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 07:12
Motörhead wrote:
25 Mar 2022, 23:29
Roughly speaking, 100pts equate to over three seconds, so one has to assume that Lando is being slightly sarcastic. Can’t blame him to be honest. But it’s a slight over reaction
3s is a bit too much, its closer to 1-1.5s as far as I know.
Take it from me, it’s roughly 30 pts CLT per second.
What is a 'point'? Percent?

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Brake duct fixes have slowed down development of the MCL36

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mcla ... r/9336137/
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CIZUK wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 12:38
Motörhead wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 12:21
Vanja #66 wrote:
26 Mar 2022, 07:12


3s is a bit too much, its closer to 1-1.5s as far as I know.
Take it from me, it’s roughly 30 pts CLT per second.
What is a 'point'? Percent?
regarding "what is a point
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Just seen the mechanics taping up cracks on the upper venturi inlet on daniels car. possibly caused by curb

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First Front Wing (used in Bahrain and FP1 in Jeddah) vs Higher Downforce front wing:

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I know there is a lot of questions in regards to the choice of sidepod concept from McLaren, but from this view I really like how it looks… Hope they get the concept to work

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SmallSoldier wrote:
28 Mar 2022, 07:30
I know there is a lot of questions in regards to the choice of sidepod concept from McLaren, but from this view I really like how it looks… Hope they get the concept to work

https://i.imgur.com/61U5Ybd.jpg

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You mean like from a fashion point of view?

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diffuser wrote:
29 Mar 2022, 00:58
SmallSoldier wrote:
28 Mar 2022, 07:30
I know there is a lot of questions in regards to the choice of sidepod concept from McLaren, but from this view I really like how it looks… Hope they get the concept to work

https://i.imgur.com/61U5Ybd.jpg

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You mean like from a fashion point of view?
From a completely aesthetic stand point (not talking about the livery)… If only looks would win races!

Just an opinion though.