What about Formula 1.5?

[Belatti]

Wow, now that I take a closer look, that McLaren has a BMW steering wheel

AFAIK, GP4 allows only 1 steering wheel type for the whole grid.

Who said it was GP4 in the picture?

Regarding using a sim, I was talking about considering options for rules changing, doesn´t matter physics or graphics for this, just what you need to see is what happens with car pace when driver A has hard burned tires and driver B has fresh soft ones and is running 20 seconds behind with 10 laps to the end.

[Conceptual]

I was talking a bit to a friend of mine about the F1 regs last night, and it gave me an idea.

What if there was to be an introduction of F1.5? F1.5 would be the teams that currently run in F1. Its practice, qualifying and race all immediately follow the F1 schedule, so the teams actually tun 2 races per weekend, thus doubling the TV time.

F1.5's entire purpose would be for introductory technology for F1. So it would be voluntary on a team basis, and could even go as far as if a team runs both series, they only run 1 car per series, so they would split the 2 car teams. F1.5 sould be where the introduction of new technology would come first. Aero bits as well as AWD, TMD and what ever else the teams can dream of. They would run on slicks, and be the same chassis that is run in F1, but be developed with the intention of proving concepts as well as a test ground for future F1 regs.

I have thought quite a bit about it, and I think that it would be a super draw for marketing. The teams share info between the series' and STILL pave the way to future technology. The FIA/FOM benefit from the co-series due to more excitement per weekend, as well as the extended media coverage from such a mixture.

I dunno, what would the cost be to run a siamese series like F1.5? Would it really cost any more?

Thoughts are welcome!

Chris

Looks like this may actually become a reality next year!


And to everyone that has participated in this topic when it was started, I apologize for my never ending exuberance about my own ideas.

ps:_:_:_:_:_:_:After re-reading this thread from the beginning, I am rather ashamed as to how I treated the contributors, and kept the "face banging against the wall" feeling going.

I appreciare every single one of the members on this forum (even xpensive and ISLAMATRON) even tho I don't always agree with them.

I feel that this is my home on the 'net, and it would be a cold and dark place without every one of you!

THANK YOU ALL for your patience with me!

[Giblet]

You should find Manchild with his nose-wing idea, hold hands, skip down the street. and say na na na na naaaaa na.



I know where you are coming from, and can likely speak for a good number of others in saying I agree.

I can also be head strong at times, but come here knowing there are people more educated about the sciences behind the sport I love.

But just because I was already on my career path when my friends went into engineering, it didn't mean that I didn't occasionally help with the conceptual (ahem) ideas for their projects, because anyones ideas can be taken for their abstracts, and what their intelligence brings to the table, regardless of the pure science beyond the concepts.

So yeah, this is home for the most part for my regular browser visits, and it's good to have you, and for the most of the time, everyone on here.

[Conceptual]

You should find Manchild with his nose-wing idea, hold hands, skip down the street. and say na na na na naaaaa na.



I know where you are coming from, and can likely speak for a good number of others in saying I agree.

I can also be head strong at times, but come here knowing there are people more educated about the sciences behind the sport I love.

But just because I was already on my career path when my friends went into engineering, it didn't mean that I didn't occasionally help with the conceptual (ahem) ideas for their projects, because anyones ideas can be taken for their abstracts, and what their intelligence brings to the table, regardless of the pure science beyond the concepts.

So yeah, this is home for the most part for my regular browser visits, and it's good to have you, and for the most of the time, everyone on here.

Thanks Giblet,

I have a close friend that I have mentioned before that is over-educated to the point of rediculousness. He has been a full time university student for the last 14 years, and he just emailed me to tell me that since he has so many credits and degrees already, he is signing up for ANOTHER 2 semesters because the classes that he is going to take will give him another 2 bachelors and one more masters.

This man does alot of grad work for NASA, and I am proud that whenever he starts a new one of these projects, that he gets all of his info gathered up, and comes and spends 3-4 hours with me to pick my brain. So far, I have helped with drone airplane design (to monitor forest fires) and also on some military type projects that he has done.

I sincerely wish that someone in F1 would offer him a job, because I don't want to see his mind be used by the US military (He was a Ranger) to find more efficient ways to kill people. He thinks that anything the US Govt. does is OK, but that is part of the military brainwashing...

Anyways, I was rather embarassed about what I had written in this thread, and how much it diverged from what I was trying to do, and that is LEARN.

To those that still care, I do thank you for answering my questions, and discussing my concepts!

[DaveKillens]

Conceptual, I am a firm believer in allowing concepts and new ideas to be expressed. So I thank you for your imagination and courage to express it.

I am a tech freak by inclination, training, and experience. That's why I visit this web site on a very regular basis. But on race weekend, when the TV broadcast starts, and the cars take the grid, I'm there to watch the racing. The racing, not the technology. Heck, if I wanted to view tech for that one reason, I'd just go to the airport and watch the airliners take off and land. Each of thise aircraft have tons of high tech. And if a person is educated about the tech inside those aircraft, it's mind-boggling what goes on inside those airborne beasts.
But I'm a race fan, and I'm sure most fans targeted by Bernie and everyone else tune in to watch just the action. I just don't believe you can sell a series purely on the basis of displaying innovative tech. And if you want a racing series designed to deliver action and thrills and spills, NASCAR already exists.

Sure, Formula One has problems. Nothing is perfect. But it's a commercial success, it has millions and millions of fans and TV viewers, the racing is exciting, and there's a lot more good things about Formula One than bad things. The series just needs tweaking and adjusting. It doesn't need to be demolished and rebuilt from the ground up. That's like having a squeaky door and demolishing the entire house in order to build a new door to fix the original problem.

[Conceptual]

Conceptual, I am a firm believer in allowing concepts and new ideas to be expressed. So I thank you for your imagination and courage to express it.

I am a tech freak by inclination, training, and experience. That's why I visit this web site on a very regular basis. But on race weekend, when the TV broadcast starts, and the cars take the grid, I'm there to watch the racing. The racing, not the technology. Heck, if I wanted to view tech for that one reason, I'd just go to the airport and watch the airliners take off and land. Each of thise aircraft have tons of high tech. And if a person is educated about the tech inside those aircraft, it's mind-boggling what goes on inside those airborne beasts.
But I'm a race fan, and I'm sure most fans targeted by Bernie and everyone else tune in to watch just the action. I just don't believe you can sell a series purely on the basis of displaying innovative tech. And if you want a racing series designed to deliver action and thrills and spills, NASCAR already exists.

Sure, Formula One has problems. Nothing is perfect. But it's a commercial success, it has millions and millions of fans and TV viewers, the racing is exciting, and there's a lot more good things about Formula One than bad things. The series just needs tweaking and adjusting. It doesn't need to be demolished and rebuilt from the ground up. That's like having a squeaky door and demolishing the entire house in order to build a new door to fix the original problem.

I wholeheartedly agree with your point, but I dont want to demolish F1, just add to it. I believe that everything has the ability to reach a higher level through synergy, and the entire point of this original post was to synergize the technical motivations of the teams with the fans hunger for crazy stuff.

Every other post on here talks about the 6 wheeler, the fancar, and a myrid of other "crazy" cars throught the ages of F1.

In 2010, it looks like these types of cars will be back on track, albeit with the current cars, but it will be great to see what the worlds best can do with $40M and alot of desire!