Mercedes W13

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It seems to me that this part is not carbon fiber !?
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organic wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 17:26
Another angle of the new floor fence geometries

https://i.imgur.com/x1cfUxh.png

Rear of the W13 floor

https://i.imgur.com/bNwerRp.png

Looking pretty patched up/makeshift
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Looks like how cars look during testing with sensors taped on etc.

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Rear wing endplate also changed. Haven't noticed anything obvious

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dans79 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 16:15
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21 Oct 2022, 15:14
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21 Oct 2022, 13:39


Could there be a connection?


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Fabrega suggests it's due to non-compliance with regs?

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21 Oct 2022, 21:41


Fabrega suggests it's due to non-compliance with regs?
Strange. Craig Scarborough did a little piece on twitter about it earlier on and thought it was within the rules.






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21 Oct 2022, 21:41


Fabrega suggests it's due to non-compliance with regs?
According to SkyF1, Without spare new front wing, if they run it in quali and damage it they would need to replace it with a different spec and break parc ferm

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pursue_one's wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 22:27
organic wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 21:41


Fabrega suggests it's due to non-compliance with regs?
According to SkyF1, Without spare new front wing, if they run it in quali and damage it they would need to replace it with a different spec and break parc ferm
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AR3-GP wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 22:41
pursue_one's wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 22:27
organic wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 21:41


Fabrega suggests it's due to non-compliance with regs?
According to SkyF1, Without spare new front wing, if they run it in quali and damage it they would need to replace it with a different spec and break parc ferm
That has never been an issue. See Austria.
I initially thought the same, but the Austria exception is only applicable to sprint weekends I believe? Unless I'm mistaken when reading the rules:
Exceptionally, at an event where a sprint session is scheduled, replacement parts that are different in design will be permitted provided that the part is of a specification that has been used previously in a qualifying practice session or a race.
I think that's why there was no parc fermé breach there, but on a normal weekend Merc would've been stuffed

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Discussing why a new part wasn't used is borderline off topic but i guess with the possibility of it not being legal it's just about fine?

In Austria they also had one part per driver and one spare, three total iirc, not one - so the idea that they don't want to risk breaking parc fermé isn't too far fetched.

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organic wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 22:43
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 22:41
pursue_one's wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 22:27


According to SkyF1, Without spare new front wing, if they run it in quali and damage it they would need to replace it with a different spec and break parc ferm
That has never been an issue. See Austria.
I initially thought the same, but the Austria exception is only applicable to sprint weekends I believe? Unless I'm mistaken when reading the rules:
Exceptionally, at an event where a sprint session is scheduled, replacement parts that are different in design will be permitted provided that the part is of a specification that has been used previously in a qualifying practice session or a race.
I think that's why there was no parc fermé breach there, but on a normal weekend Merc would've been stuffed
Good shout. i was wrong (very).

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Very impressive floor. The taller upward curl could be an indication of the strength of flow that is expected.
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"Illegal" but safe parts can be tested. They just can't be used to qualify or earn points with.
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El_KaPpa wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:19
It seems to me that this part is not carbon fiber !?
https://i.ibb.co/SKJyp8g/bNwerRp.png

organic wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 17:26
Another angle of the new floor fence geometries

https://i.imgur.com/x1cfUxh.png

Rear of the W13 floor

https://i.imgur.com/bNwerRp.png

Looking pretty patched up/makeshift
Looks like its 3d printed. I'd guess CF-PEKK filament.