2023 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Shal_Leg16]

So finally Inaki Rueda is gone ?

[wowgr8]

This is a bit off topic but it's just incredible to think about how well Red Bull nailed last year's car. From the lack of porpoising to the perfect sidepod concept to the weird floor and also whatever trick earned them their unbelievable top speed. It's as though they had a 2 year head start working on the rules. Doesn't make all that much sense to me how they nailed it so well when they were busy with the 2021 title fight.

[bas550]

This is a bit off topic but it's just incredible to think about how well Red Bull nailed last year's car. From the lack of porpoising to the perfect sidepod concept to the weird floor and also whatever trick earned them their unbelievable top speed. It's as though they had a 2 year head start working on the rules. Doesn't make all that much sense to me how they nailed it so well when they were busy with the 2021 title fight.

I don't think there's foul play at hand. Just they nailed the regulations pretty solidly, Ferrari's misfortunes and countless mistakes, and finally TD39 allowed them to shift focus to 2023 quite early as well.

[dialtone]

Hello, been a long time since we last saw each other .

I figure I'd drop some data about the session, nothing much though.

SAI v VER fastest laps (hard to compare given how far apart they were set):


LEC v VER fastest laps (easier to compare given they were closer):


it's day 1 of testing so not really much to comment.

* Ferrari doesn't seem to have much of a speed issue this year although they are using a less loaded rear wing so it's pretty clear they should be faster.
* VER lap seemed pretty clean overall, somehow pays a bunch in the last straight for speed but he's on full throttle earlier, probably a sign of the more loaded rear wing.
* IMHO the less loaded rear wing, and what felt like a very stiff setup, makes Ferrari pay during slow corners like T1, T4, T14-15
* Lots of other small errors in both SAI and LEC laps, car isn't stable

I don't think anyone did race sims judging by the laptimes.

Looked fairly easy for VER to stay in the 1:36 stints, particularly in the evening:
LAP 107 M/1 Stint 22: NaT
LAP 108 M/2 Stint 22: 1:32.837
LAP 109 M/3 Stint 22: 1:47.379
LAP 110 M/4 Stint 23: 2:17.860
LAP 111 M/5 Stint 23: 1:35.756
LAP 112 M/6 Stint 23: 1:36.300
LAP 113 M/7 Stint 23: 1:36.239
LAP 114 M/8 Stint 23: 1:36.078
LAP 115 M/9 Stint 23: 1:36.401
LAP 116 M/10 Stint 23: 1:36.511
LAP 117 M/11 Stint 23: 1:36.442
LAP 118 M/12 Stint 23: 1:36.834
LAP 119 M/13 Stint 23: 1:36.854
LAP 120 M/14 Stint 23: 1:36.913
LAP 121 M/15 Stint 23: 1:55.608

LAP 122 M/1 Stint 24: NaT
LAP 123 M/2 Stint 24: 1:33.026
LAP 124 M/3 Stint 24: 2:5.111
LAP 125 M/4 Stint 25: 2:12.192
LAP 126 M/5 Stint 25: 1:36.202
LAP 127 M/6 Stint 25: 1:35.981
LAP 128 M/7 Stint 25: 1:35.966
LAP 129 M/8 Stint 25: 1:35.959
LAP 130 M/9 Stint 25: 1:35.732
LAP 131 M/10 Stint 25: 1:35.840
LAP 132 M/11 Stint 25: 1:35.795
LAP 133 M/12 Stint 25: 1:35.971
LAP 134 M/13 Stint 25: 1:35.914
LAP 135 M/14 Stint 25: 1:35.854
LAP 136 M/15 Stint 25: 1:36.595
LAP 137 M/16 Stint 25: 1:36.250
LAP 138 M/17 Stint 25: 1:36.494
LAP 139 M/18 Stint 25: 1:36.806
LAP 140 M/19 Stint 25: 1:42.170

Ferrari didn't manage these long stints, LEC had probably this one as the longest, second to last stint of the day:
LAP 45 M/4 Stint 10: NaT
LAP 46 M/5 Stint 10: 1:57.724
LAP 47 M/6 Stint 10: 1:35.467
LAP 48 M/7 Stint 10: 1:36.152
LAP 49 M/8 Stint 10: 1:36.239
LAP 50 M/9 Stint 10: 1:36.798
LAP 51 M/10 Stint 10: 1:37.086
LAP 52 M/11 Stint 10: 1:37.336
LAP 53 M/12 Stint 10: 1:59.422

RBR seems decently setup, hit the ground running, Ferrari still plenty of work.

Don't expect this on a regular basis, took too much time of my life last year so this is only on a best effort basis and when I have time to do it .

Also I've not watched the thing in full, this is by no means "the truth" just my interpretation of the parts that I saw, correct it at will.

[organic]

Hello, been a long time since we last saw each other .

I figure I'd drop some data about the session, nothing much though.


RBR seems decently setup, hit the ground running, Ferrari still plenty of work.

Don't expect this on a regular basis, took too much time of my life last year so this is only on a best effort basis and when I have time to do it

Welcome back and no problem there are no expectations to do it or provide in-depth analysis

[Vanja #66]

Hello, been a long time since we last saw each other .

Thanks man, much appreciated!

[tpe]

Hello, been a long time since we last saw each other .

We appreciate it. We have3no expectations, we just consume what you provide to us!

Welcome back

[LM10]

This is a bit off topic but it's just incredible to think about how well Red Bull nailed last year's car. From the lack of porpoising to the perfect sidepod concept to the weird floor and also whatever trick earned them their unbelievable top speed. It's as though they had a 2 year head start working on the rules. Doesn't make all that much sense to me how they nailed it so well when they were busy with the 2021 title fight.

The F1-75 was a faster car on raw pace. It had inferior race pace and inferior top-speed to RB18. Of course this got only worse for them throughout the season when several things came into play - such as the TD39, PU reliability issues (and consequently being in lower mode) and stopping the development quite early. But altogether at the beginning of the season the F1-75 had more downforce, was more stable and was fast in all conditions and on all tyres - an Allrounder.

Considering this, I don’t see why the RB18 should be praised to heaven in comparison to the F1-75. Rather than calling the RB18 incredible, I’d call the overall package consisting of car, driver, team, strategy etc. incredible. Because that’s - coupled with Ferrari’s own induced misery - was what gave them 17 wins.

[LM10]

Hello, been a long time since we last saw each other .

Wow, welcome back! I’ve missed your amazing analyses and I’d love to see them again! Much appreciated.

[codetower]

Hello, been a long time since we last saw each other .

Welcome back! Really appreciate all your analyses (as well as the info and posts of others as well)! Great to see the cars back on the track.

So finally Inaki Rueda is gone ?

Yep, thats what it looks like. He's been moved back to the factory, replaced on the pit wall by Ravin Jain. He's an Oxford physics graduate who joined Ferrari back in 2016. Hopefully he's a decent upgrade.

[dialtone]

Couple more graph just for giggles, this is FP1 Bahrain 2022 from LEC vs today, FP1 time was 1s slower than today:


This is FP2 vs today, FP2 time was 1.2s faster than today:


Couple of notes:
* SF-23 in some corners brakes a LOT later than F1-75, in some cases 20+m later according to this data (comp laps are 1s faster and 1s slower but it's still later braking from higher speed).
* Most corners are rounder, taken less aggressively and LEC has to be (or just is) slower with the throttle.
* Despite the slower corner speed, SF-23 seems to catch up F1-75 speed before the end of the straight at worst, by mid straight at best.
* Upshifts are slower in SF-23 so either they lenghtened their ratios, IMHO unlikely looking the graphs against VER, or they could push the car more there.

I think the car looks genuinely improved from last year except for the balance, which at the moment has oversteer both in slow speed and high speed corners while RBR seems to only oversteer in exit of slow speed corners.

[LM10]

"There was some bouncing [SF-23] but some settings on ride height and mechanics were experimental. In the factory in Maranello and on the track they didn't appear worried [..]"

Ferrari will test a new floor tomorrow (Day 2).

From tami on twitter.

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"There was some bouncing [SF-23] but some settings on ride height and mechanics were experimental. In the factory in Maranello and on the track they didn't appear worried [..]"

Ferrari will test a new floor tomorrow (Day 2).

From tami on twitter.

Duchessa also says new floor parts tomorrow

[JPBD1990]

Couple more graph just for giggles, this is FP1 Bahrain 2022 from LEC vs today, FP1 time was 1s slower than today:
https://i.imgur.com/tzFtlal.jpeg

This is FP2 vs today, FP2 time was 1.2s faster than today:
https://i.imgur.com/EFwHjCy.jpeg

Couple of notes:
* SF-23 in some corners brakes a LOT later than F1-75, in some cases 20+m later according to this data (comp laps are 1s faster and 1s slower but it's still later braking from higher speed).
* Most corners are rounder, taken less aggressively and LEC has to be (or just is) slower with the throttle.
* Despite the slower corner speed, SF-23 seems to catch up F1-75 speed before the end of the straight at worst, by mid straight at best.
* Upshifts are slower in SF-23 so either they lenghtened their ratios, IMHO unlikely looking the graphs against VER, or they could push the car more there.

I think the car looks genuinely improved from last year except for the balance, which at the moment has oversteer both in slow speed and high speed corners while RBR seems to only oversteer in exit of slow speed corners.

Incredible to me is that Ferrari has the mid-low downforce wing on for this test, while they ran a mid-high spec for the race last year - so the fact that they’re able to break later, and even maintain a higher minimum apex speed in several corners, is very impressive. Certainly suggests strong downforce and also improved mechanical grip.

[jambuka]

Feels like due to aero development Ferrari has had to baseline and validate correlation data which they did yesterday and will actually start tuning setup from today. Bottoming on straights could also be due to very high down force. Matching RB top speed is encouraging.