Great pitstops lately.
Fernando Alonso: “But I think it’s more up to us to understand why at certain circuits we seem to struggle more than the others and in a way we know beforehand and that’s the most frustrating thing.”
Aston's not the only one who has swings of performance. Even Red Bull do but they're so far ahead it's not as noticeable.Lewis Hamilton: “It’s confusing for us to have such strong performances one day and then be nowhere the next. But when you really care about what you’re doing you brush it off and keep fighting!”
So Max pitted on the next lap and narrowly escaped disaster. If someone was closer to him on inters or the collision with the wall harder it could have caused damage and he could have been done for. So we both agree, the timing was right with the pit stop. Although, by the time Max pitted, it was obviously inters weather.peewon wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 15:24If it stopped raining, they would've finished exactly where they did anyway because they already had a pit stop gap to Ocon. Which is why it was an obvious call. Strategy is evaluating the risk reward matrix in real time and making optimal decisions. Here they were presented with no risk and highest reward possible scenario and they botched it. Even if there was a scenario where they could've lost 2nd place to gamble for a race win, I would go for it. For a guy like Fernando, he may not get that opportunity ever again. There's only maybe 1 or 2 races a season which has a fluke winner.
Cronin: Virtual safety car, virtual. Stay out please, stay out.
Cronin: You can go to...
Alonso: Sure?
[several seconds]
Cronin: Pit! Box! Stay out!
Cronin: That's okay mate, that's okay.
KimiRai wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 22:44.
Radio comment during the first stint with the Hards: "Little bit understeer [in] high speed but then the rest is oversteer"
https://i.imgur.com/YSwDHVE.png
Radio when the VSC came out:
ok what's your point?Cronin: Virtual safety car, virtual. Stay out please, stay out.
Cronin: You can go to...
Alonso: Sure?
[several seconds]
Cronin: Pit! Box! Stay out!
Cronin: That's okay mate, that's okay.
There was confusion at the entry of both pitstops, the vsc one and the next one as well where he had to wait another lap. He told the team to not call him that late. Someone else I think said the mediums seemed better for the car and he's right. Not much more.
yeah, that was me. He didn't have the oversteer underteer issues after he went to the Mediums. That being said, after the race he said the Balance was "OK". I've notice though that Alonso answers post race don't match up with what he's said in the cockpit during the race.
Interesting. It was the opposite in Canada. Car was a struggle on mediums, but really well balanced on the hards.diffuser wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 23:36yeah, that was me. He didn't have the oversteer underteer issues after he went to the Mediums. That being said, after the race he said the Balance was "OK". I've notice though that Alonso answers post race don't match up with what he's said in the cockpit during the race.
It's well analyzed, even by AMR, that the pit timing was perfect but the tire choice (with hindsight) was wrong.diffuser wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 20:46So Max pitted on the next lap and narrowly escaped disaster. If someone was closer to him on inters or the collision with the wall harder it could have caused damage and he could have been done for. So we both agree, the timing was right with the pit stop. Although, by the time Max pitted, it was obviously inters weather.peewon wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 15:24If it stopped raining, they would've finished exactly where they did anyway because they already had a pit stop gap to Ocon. Which is why it was an obvious call. Strategy is evaluating the risk reward matrix in real time and making optimal decisions. Here they were presented with no risk and highest reward possible scenario and they botched it. Even if there was a scenario where they could've lost 2nd place to gamble for a race win, I would go for it. For a guy like Fernando, he may not get that opportunity ever again. There's only maybe 1 or 2 races a season which has a fluke winner.
Now as far as the tire choice, the conversation between the engineer and Alonso the deciding factor was their weather forcast saying it was gonna stop raining. Why would put on inters if you know it's gonna stop raining?
We know weather forecasts and we know they never say black or white. They always deal in ranges of Grey(ie 45%, 50%, 55% etc chance of rain). I think you're getting caught up on a flip of coin decision
Think both races had gusty wind, maybe it had more to do with that than the tires or balance?AR3-GP wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 23:51Interesting. It was the opposite in Canada. Car was a struggle on mediums, but really well balanced on the hards.diffuser wrote: ↑03 Jul 2023, 23:36yeah, that was me. He didn't have the oversteer underteer issues after he went to the Mediums. That being said, after the race he said the Balance was "OK". I've notice though that Alonso answers post race don't match up with what he's said in the cockpit during the race.
The C3-C5 was used in both Canada and Austria.
Hungary is a "very balanced diet", it has a little of everything, i think they are gonna be competing for best of the rest there.