2023 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Oct 06 - 08

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F1Krof
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Wouter wrote:
02 Oct 2023, 13:56
It's going to be really incredibly hot this coming weekend. The sessions are later in the day and then it will be
about 5 degrees cooler, but still hot.
Which team has suffered from hugely high temperatures in recent months and with what?
With the tires, PU or something else?

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F1Krof wrote:
03 Oct 2023, 08:57
Wouter wrote:
02 Oct 2023, 13:56
It's going to be really incredibly hot this coming weekend. The sessions are later in the day and then it will be
about 5 degrees cooler, but still hot.
Which team has suffered from hugely high temperatures in recent months and with what?
With the tires, PU or something else?

https://imgur.com/DtY0qxt.jpg
:o :o :o

This is going to be tough for drivers. The saving grace is the humidity is not like in Singapore else drivers may suffer intense heat stress. Possible for FIA to delay the race to later?

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30 degrees at night is mad
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Xyz22 wrote:
01 Oct 2023, 16:34
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Oct 2023, 16:32
The gaps in '21 were shocking.
Because it's a "real" track which really test how good a car actually is.
It’s a horrible venue to watch F1 cars, a featureless bore fest. On TV you can barely tell which part of the track the cars are on.

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An hour ago at the circuit.

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SiLo wrote:
03 Oct 2023, 14:32
30 degrees at night is mad
I woke up today at 6am and 31.2C
Nomnomnom ...
Then again, I do not have to race for 2 hours
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Mogster wrote:
03 Oct 2023, 14:42
Xyz22 wrote:
01 Oct 2023, 16:34
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Oct 2023, 16:32
The gaps in '21 were shocking.
Because it's a "real" track which really test how good a car actually is.
It’s a horrible venue to watch F1 cars, a featureless bore fest. On TV you can barely tell which part of the track the cars are on.
The airfield is flat and featureless too, why is that considered great?

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FW17 wrote:
03 Oct 2023, 16:34
Mogster wrote:
03 Oct 2023, 14:42
Xyz22 wrote:
01 Oct 2023, 16:34


Because it's a "real" track which really test how good a car actually is.
It’s a horrible venue to watch F1 cars, a featureless bore fest. On TV you can barely tell which part of the track the cars are on.
The airfield is flat and featureless too, why is that considered great?
No particular fan of Silverstone as a viewing circuit but at least 150,000 people add atmosphere. Silverstone undeniably produces good racing, you can overtake, Lusail is like a flat Hungaroring.

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FW17 wrote:
03 Oct 2023, 16:34
Mogster wrote:
03 Oct 2023, 14:42
Xyz22 wrote:
01 Oct 2023, 16:34


Because it's a "real" track which really test how good a car actually is.
It’s a horrible venue to watch F1 cars, a featureless bore fest. On TV you can barely tell which part of the track the cars are on.
The airfield is flat and featureless too, why is that considered great?
It's been on the calendar since the very first year of F1, so it has huge history, plus it has a layout that is conducive to overtaking and good racing.
Felipe Baby!

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SiLo wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:03
FW17 wrote:
03 Oct 2023, 16:34
Mogster wrote:
03 Oct 2023, 14:42
It’s a horrible venue to watch F1 cars, a featureless bore fest. On TV you can barely tell which part of the track the cars are on.
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The airfield is flat and featureless too, why is that considered great?
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It's been on the calendar since the very first year of F1, so it has huge history, plus it has a layout that is conducive to overtaking and good racing.
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Are you talking about the Losail International Circuit? The F1 started in 2004? :wink:
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Wouter wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:56
SiLo wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:03
FW17 wrote:
03 Oct 2023, 16:34

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The airfield is flat and featureless too, why is that considered great?
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It's been on the calendar since the very first year of F1, so it has huge history, plus it has a layout that is conducive to overtaking and good racing.
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Are you talking about the Losail International Circuit? The F1 started in 2004? :wink:
They're talking about Silverstone

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organic wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:57
Wouter wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:56
SiLo wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:03

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It's been on the calendar since the very first year of F1, so it has huge history, plus it has a layout that is conducive to overtaking and good racing.
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Are you talking about the Losail International Circuit? The F1 started in 2004? :wink:
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They're talking about Silverstone
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Oh, ok.
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Wouter wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:59
organic wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:57
Wouter wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:56

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Are you talking about the Losail International Circuit? The F1 started in 2004? :wink:
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They're talking about Silverstone
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Oh, ok.
"The airfield"

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organic wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:59
Wouter wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:59
organic wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:57

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They're talking about Silverstone
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Oh, ok.
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"The airfield"
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Yes, I know, but only @Silo and @FW17 talked about it and the others were talking about Lusail.
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Wouter wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 15:02
organic wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:59
Wouter wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 14:59

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Oh, ok.
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"The airfield"
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Yes, I know, but only @Silo and @FW17 talked about it and the others were talking about Lusail.
I think some have criticized Losail for being flat and featureless resulting in many parts of the circuit feeling indistinct and same-y. I think it's valid

Someone then drew comparison to Silverstone, one of the most beloved F1 circuits, with its also flat and largely featureless location as a defence of Losail or just to point out that it may not exclude Losail from being a good track

Both are valid IMO

It's a bit frustrating for Qatar to already have a deal until 2032 - sportswashing at its finest. <mod edit: point made already, further politics removed>. Other sports that I'm interested in such as Football, cycling are already infiltrated in far more insidious ways, but it's inevitable that F1 will experience a similar fate given how money-hungry it has proven to be

This aside I don't think Qatar will make for spectacular racing with its lack of braking zones, lack of slow-speed, and narrow track width. 2021 was good but there were a lot of unusual factors in this race: height of a championship battle, out of position cars, strange strategy due to the tyre punctures and lots of unpredictability due to said punctures causing DNFs