2023 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Oct 06 - 08

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Merc always made a waste of their strategy these days. Same as Singapore. Equality isn't always efficient

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One thing to consider is that the pits could be mayhem at the stops if they all pit on the max lap.
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Ferrari moment?

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search wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:15
Hülkenberg started from 12th instead of 14th. Lol
And get only 10s penalty (5s per place). Again too weak penalty.

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Mogster wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:22
The fact that Hamilton was on softs and likely to get a rocket start sounds worthy of a team discussion imo.
The team absolutely REFUSE to give Lewis first driver status.

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Norris will eat these cars

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Russel flying despite all the overtakes

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Mchamilton wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:28
Russel flying despite all the overtakes
Could've been racing winning pace. Max doesn't seem to be that quick this weekend in race trim

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:26
Mogster wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:22
The fact that Hamilton was on softs and likely to get a rocket start sounds worthy of a team discussion imo.
The team absolutely REFUSE to give Lewis first driver status.
It’s not giving either driver #1 status it’s just saying that from a team point of view some co-ordination on the start may be sensible…

Anyway, Sunday afternoon drive for Max.
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renault rs26 wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:25
search wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:15
Hülkenberg started from 12th instead of 14th. Lol
And get only 10s penalty (5s per place). Again too weak penalty.
? He's last by a long shot. How is that too weak.

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organic wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:30
Mchamilton wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:28
Russel flying despite all the overtakes
Could've been racing winning pace. Max doesn't seem to be that quick this weekend in race trim
Verstappen is managing the left front. He’s been setting fastest laps at a canter. I don’t see how he’s not quick.

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Mogster wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:32
Anyway, Sunday afternoon drive for Max.
Unfortunately.

Pretty dull. Just a pit stop show

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AR3-GP wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:32
organic wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:30
Mchamilton wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:28
Russel flying despite all the overtakes
Could've been racing winning pace. Max doesn't seem to be that quick this weekend in race trim
Verstappen is managing the left front. He’s been setting fastest laps at a canter. I don’t see how he’s not quick.
Didn't seem like he needed to stop yet were it not enforced. Needless rule.

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AR3-GP wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:32
organic wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:30
Mchamilton wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:28
Russel flying despite all the overtakes
Could've been racing winning pace. Max doesn't seem to be that quick this weekend in race trim
Verstappen is managing the left front. He’s been setting fastest laps at a canter. I don’t see how he’s not quick.
Yeah blimey I was mistaken

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Mogster wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 19:22
The fact that Hamilton was on softs and likely to get a rocket start sounds worthy of a team discussion imo.
Not to mention on the grippier side the the track: There is no way they did not discuss this, so Russel's radio of "only looking ahead" is questionable.

The problem started once GR was boxed in. LH had to evade GR's escape attempt from the box or they would have crashed even before T1. I suspect LH decided to immediately return the favour, expecting GR to yield. This was obviously a bad assumption and at that point it's pot luck as to who comes off how.

So as a racing incident I would say they are both to blame, with LH perhaps more responsible for not anticipating GR not yielding. But from the team perspective I would be disappointed in GR precipitating the situation by going aggressive against LH's predictable fast start instead of playing the long game.