Red Bull RB20

[Sevach]

This is by no means Mercedes’ zeropod concept.

Who said it’s zero pods??

I’m talking about the B spec W14 with overbite sidepods

If any, the RB20 we're seeing on the low quality pictures looks more like the launch spec W14 with an upper lip and a vertical inlet - of course if it's true that the RB20 actually has vertical inlets.

https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... w14-1.webp

The RB20 inlet looks more comparable in size to the Ferrari S-Duct than to the W14 inlet... well done Honda.
They do have a fat centerline (a lot similar to the W14).

Interesting that they removed the crease on the top of the sidepods that pushes air outside, do they have a small water slide going on?
The most mysterious launch ever honestly.

[AR3-GP]

Who said it’s zero pods??

I’m talking about the B spec W14 with overbite sidepods

If any, the RB20 we're seeing on the low quality pictures looks more like the launch spec W14 with an upper lip and a vertical inlet - of course if it's true that the RB20 actually has vertical inlets.

https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... w14-1.webp

The RB20 inlet looks more comparable in size to the Ferrari S-Duct than to the W14 inlet... well done Honda.
They do have a fat centerline (a lot similar to the W14).

There's no chance that a tiny s-duct inlet would be enough cooling unless there were fans at the back of the car drawing suction...

[bagajohny]

If they are doing it though clearly they found something worth it.

They "think" they did...as others before them...they'll be hoping for a different outcome however...

There is 99% chance Newey won't bottle it but imagine if he did. The season would be much more exciting.

[Venturiation]

If they are doing it though clearly they found something worth it.

They "think" they did...as others before them...they'll be hoping for a different outcome however...

The W13 was a monster in DF at launch, they had to nerf the floor to stop the porpoising and by that lost all the DF
W14 failed because they made it too high

Now imagine W13 with the good suspensions and good ride height

[dialtone]

If they are doing it though clearly they found something worth it.

They "think" they did...as others before them...they'll be hoping for a different outcome however...

There is 99% chance Newey won't bottle it but imagine if he did. The season would be much more exciting.

I’m still skeptical they moved the inlet vertically. I don’t think it’s a huge deal but high and horizontal makes more sense.

[vorticism]

Well, thats the charm of decoys. They are fantasy and hence do not take up any windtunnel time. The car probably only has one sidepod...

+1 Interesting take. With such lorge sidepods you might get away with rad maxxing on one side only. Inlet only on the left side for CCW tracks, right side for CW tracks. Where was shakedown held?

Well, Silverstone is run CW...

Aero cover on the LH side, RB19 intake on the unseen RH side.

[dialtone]

If they are doing it though clearly they found something worth it.

They "think" they did...as others before them...they'll be hoping for a different outcome however...

The W13 was a monster in DF at launch, they had to nerf the floor to stop the porpoising and by that lost all the DF
W14 failed because they made it too high

Now imagine W13 with the good suspensions and good ride height

W13 was a dog on straights and not just because of the big wing. It was a very draggy car that didn’t manage tire wake properly. RBR was by far the best at that job.

[Venturiation]

They "think" they did...as others before them...they'll be hoping for a different outcome however...

The W13 was a monster in DF at launch, they had to nerf the floor to stop the porpoising and by that lost all the DF
W14 failed because they made it too high

Now imagine W13 with the good suspensions and good ride height

W13 was a dog on straights and not just because of the big wing. It was a very draggy car that didn’t manage tire wake properly. RBR was by far the best at that job.

The concept was that with that DF it would be the fastest in corners that being slow in the straight doesn't matter

[AmateurDriver]

Can someone explain how the 2 "redbull" cars last year McLaren and Redbull both switched to mid-wing this year and are hiding the real car until Bahrain
Did they reach the ceiling and found that the next evolution is the mid-wing and some kind of zeropods iteration ?

Normally they strive to exploit any filming opportunity to test something. Personally I don't see what kind of advantage one can enjoy by hiding one week (or maybe two) more the real car instead of trying to collect any possible early information of its on track behavior.

[organic]

Can someone explain how the 2 "redbull" cars last year McLaren and Redbull both switched to mid-wing this year and are hiding the real car until Bahrain
Did they reach the ceiling and found that the next evolution is the mid-wing and some kind of zeropods iteration ?

Normally they strive to exploit any filming opportunity to test something. Personally I don't see what kind of advantage one can enjoy by hiding one week (or maybe two) more the real car instead of trying to collect any possible early information of its on track behavior.

Longer development time if you wait

Added benefit of hiding what you're doing from rivals

[CjC]

Can someone explain how the 2 "redbull" cars last year McLaren and Redbull both switched to mid-wing this year and are hiding the real car until Bahrain
Did they reach the ceiling and found that the next evolution is the mid-wing and some kind of zeropods iteration?

My thoughts as well

[AmateurDriver]

Can someone explain how the 2 "redbull" cars last year McLaren and Redbull both switched to mid-wing this year and are hiding the real car until Bahrain
Did they reach the ceiling and found that the next evolution is the mid-wing and some kind of zeropods iteration ?

Normally they strive to exploit any filming opportunity to test something. Personally I don't see what kind of advantage one can enjoy by hiding one week (or maybe two) more the real car instead of trying to collect any possible early information of its on track behavior.

Longer development time if you wait

Added benefit of hiding what you're doing from rivals

Of course. What I mean is, you run the risk of doing a Mercedes 22, that is you are actually only delaying the discovery of your issues.

[AMG.Tzan]

They "think" they did...as others before them...they'll be hoping for a different outcome however...

The W13 was a monster in DF at launch, they had to nerf the floor to stop the porpoising and by that lost all the DF
W14 failed because they made it too high

Now imagine W13 with the good suspensions and good ride height

W13 was a dog on straights and not just because of the big wing. It was a very draggy car that didn’t manage tire wake properly. RBR was by far the best at that job.

It was a dog because they had to run it very high off the ground so it doesn’t porpoise like crazy! Under normal setup as in their simulations the car would have been alright on the straights…

[stewie325]

If any, the RB20 we're seeing on the low quality pictures looks more like the launch spec W14 with an upper lip and a vertical inlet - of course if it's true that the RB20 actually has vertical inlets.

https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... w14-1.webp

The RB20 inlet looks more comparable in size to the Ferrari S-Duct than to the W14 inlet... well done Honda.
They do have a fat centerline (a lot similar to the W14).

There's no chance that a tiny s-duct inlet would be enough cooling unless there were fans at the back of the car drawing suction...

Could they have a second smaller vertical inlet on the side (underneath the O in oracle). Quite unlikely, but would increase the cooling somewhat.
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... rb20_leak/

[Dee]

Can someone explain how the 2 "redbull" cars last year McLaren and Redbull both switched to mid-wing this year and are hiding the real car until Bahrain
Did they reach the ceiling and found that the next evolution is the mid-wing and some kind of zeropods iteration?

My thoughts as well

Didn't Rob Marshall switch to Mclaren from RB?